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John Macmillan Loyal user Vancouver, BC 226 Posts |
Anyone familiar with some of the effects produced / marketed by Sid Lorraine years ago? I'm interested to know what all his creations were and would also be interested in opinions / comments anyone could provide on specific creations of Sid's.
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Bilwonder Veteran user Oroville CA 327 Posts |
I really enjoy Sid's stuff. I "cut my teeth" so to speak on his material when I first started perfoming. I met him at the Abbott's conventions in the late 60s and found him to not only be a wonderful person, but really taught me magic was more than tricks.
Abbott's Magic Company puts out compilations of his material now and then and there is no telling what may be available at this time. Two books that contain most of his stuff are "Sid Lorraine's Scrapbook" and "Sid Lorraine: The Early Stuff." This last booklet makes a list of the comercial effects of his.
billswondershow.com
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John Macmillan Loyal user Vancouver, BC 226 Posts |
Bill, I have the Scrapbook, there's sure some interesting and funny material in it.
Do you use any of his effects that were commercially marketed? |
Bilwonder Veteran user Oroville CA 327 Posts |
I've used a lot of his patter...which was even funnier when I was 13 and 14 years old saying some of this stuff! I used to do the "Moon Rock" and the "Mansion" paper fold all the time...other than that I can't saw I've used a lot of his effects. Of course most of use use moves like his "slip slop shuffle." "The Early Stuff" lists 36 commercial tricks by him. It also list four other tricks that were marketed with his routines. What I enjoy most is his "folksiness" and offhanded presentations that shine through (past the corn and dated material).
I still do the "Wrist Watch Trick." Much of patter for ropes and newspaper tricks sprang from his routines. And I still go back to routines of his such as "Soft Soap," the "Mutilated Parasol, " and "Six Card Repeat" for a fresh revamping of over done tricks.
billswondershow.com
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Kondini Inner circle 3609 Posts |
Ken Brooke used to sell some of Sid's stuff, but if you can get hold of any Brooke`s after service sheets there is a mine of Sid's information on these.
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Steven Steele Chief of Staff 1868 Posts |
I have Sid's tapes on writing patter. They are really good, although none of his material is on it...just tapes telling you how to approach writing your material.
Steven
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Ed Hutchison Regular user Madison, MS (orig. CNY) 118 Posts |
I had the pleasure of meeting Sid several times over the years and found him to be a very pleasant and kind person.
One of the funniest routines, magic or otherwise, that I have ever heard can be found on an hour-long audio tape that Sid recorded about 1975. It was marketed by Martin Breese as a part of his series of interviews with prominent magicians of that era. Sid discusses his entry into magic and his disastrous first show. It is really quite funny. |
hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts |
I have someplace a list of all of Sid's writings. I think we did when we honored it at FFFF.
I still wrtie his widow every year at Christmas. He was a good friend and a a wealth of knowledge. And if you never saw Sid work and do his Fraznee routine, I am sorry. I was honored that he asked for copy of my photo of him I took at a Las Vegas SAM convention. I also made an 11x 14 of it and had him sign it as part of my exclusive photo collection.
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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TrickyRicky Inner circle TrickyRicky 1653 Posts |
When I migrated to Toronto in 1965 Sid Lorrainew and I struck up a friendship that had me going to his home quite a few times to have tea or supper with him and his wife.
He took me to the Hat and the rabbit club to meet Johnny Giordemaine, Bruce Posgate and a few of the other members. Sid was a very nice and gracious man, he'd show you anything that you asked about, and Sid know almost everything in magic. I had the previlage to entertain at a birthday party of Sid's personal doctor. His passing was a big blow to the magic world. He is still missed. I remembered one Saturday morning we were having coffee or tea when I mentioned that I would like to meet Burlin Hull "Volta". About 10 minutes later the door bell rang and there standing in the door way was Volta himself. He was in town doing a gig at the Royal York hotel. Richard. Richard Lyn |
marc pearl New user Sarasota Florida 17 Posts |
When I was subscribing to TOPs magazine in the mid sixties, he had a column. I wrote to him about memorabilia. He posted my name in the column, and sent me a big package of all kinds of stuff....8x10s, brochures, advertisements, business cards, booklets of tricks, from magicians from all over the world, stuff from the '30s to the 50's....He must have had so much at his house that he was glad to give some away to a young magician. It was really inspiring to handle all that history! I still have some pieces in what little I saved of my collection!! Many others mailed me items when they read my request in his column....
I met him at Abbotts conventions in the 60's, he was a very friendly and knowledgeable man. Marc |
Nicholas Special user I predict that I now have 900 Posts |
I looked in my drawer and found two marketed items by Sid Lorraine. They are the 1-2-3 Memory Test and Eye Spy. If not familiar with these, I'll be glad to describe them. I also see Sid Lorraine's Chatter in the 1964 Silver Aniversary Issue of Tops. In that article, Sid tells subscribers about a gentleman who paid $50 for an effect and was having trouble with the provider in terms of communications and making good on the item which was broken upon arrival. I guess the more things change, the more they stay the same. Ha!
Nicholas |
Marshall Thornside Inner circle chicago 2016 Posts |
Awww Uncle Sid!
what a wonderful memory. He would always take a photograph of me at Abbott's write letters periodically to me with the photo in it. (I still have them too.) I have all the TOPS magazines he wrote in. Such a joy. He always took great photos of us and visited us when were at the CNE too. Uncle Sid and his wife and Bruce Postgate. :)
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I only met Sid once, and that was at an IBM Convention in Little Rock, Arkansas. He was a very funny, very talented man.
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hugmagic Inner circle 7665 Posts |
I just picked up a bunch of the old Tops magazines from the 1930's. Sid was writing back then in them. Lots of interesting stuff. For $5 he would write you patter for an effect.
Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
www.hughesmagic.com email-hugmagic@raex.com Write direct as I will be turning off my PM's. |
Antony Gerard Veteran user Kalamazoo, Michigan 359 Posts |
Hi John
I had the opportunity to meet and speak with Sid many times. I don’t recall if it was at FFFF, Abbott’s, or the Stewart James Courtwrite convention but he gave me two Sid Lorraine advertising paper folds. If you are interested please PM me and I will send you a photo of them. One of the folds involves a T-Tip “A tip from Sid Lorraine” and the other is a fold that turns into a silhouette of Sid. Both very cool ideas! Take care and take cards |
Ken McCreedy New user St.Catharines,Ontario CANADA 4 Posts |
I have a Bibliography of Sid's material from August, 1920 to April of 1983. This was put together by Howard Lyons. Sid was a great friend of mine. I used to drive Sid and Bruce Posgate to the Abbott's Get Togethers for ten years. Some of the stories on the drive to the convention were more interesting than the convention itself. These were two of the finest gentlemen I have ever met and their wives, Win and Rene, always made visits to their homes most enjoyable. If you would like a copy of the Bibliography for historical and reference purposes you can e-mail me at kmccreed@mergetel.com
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