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I've talked with Jeff about his illusion as well and the price is $2000.00 which is o.k. if the illusion is as great as it looks.
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With all this talk about the chair suspension and the flying carpet I am going to have to break down and buy one is the Chair Suspension by Mak Magic a good way to start or does anyone have a better suggestion?
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On 2009-07-04 23:04, Bigboymagic wrote:
With all this talk about the chair suspension and the flying carpet I am going to have to break down and buy one is the Chair Suspension by Mak Magic a good way to start or does anyone have a better suggestion?
Thanks,


As long as your intent is to use a child as your assistant, the MAK should serve you well. If you want to use an adult, you'll need to purchase one of the models that's rated for more weight.
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Donald: not a problem at all. I know for a fact that this has been an area for disagreement for years. many magicians have different opinions on it. what I stated is my own personal opinion only. This is just based upon my own observation, research and talking with folks. Certainly there are other theories and mine is not to be taken as the ONLY one. =)

bigBoy: Before you decide on whioch is rigth for you, you have to ask yourself if you are using it for kid helpers only or are you wanting to use an adult helper. This makes a big difference in which model will work best for you.

for kid helpers, the MAK or Sommer's models are very good and will run you about 450 US dollars. If you want to use an adult helper, then the European and bill Smith models would be the way to go.

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What? Kyle and Donald don't agree? Controversy! Controversy!

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Donald: lol I laughed so hard at that I spit soda all over the screen. hehehe Stop the presses folks. lol

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On 2009-07-04 09:11, magic4u02 wrote:
The only thing is the Super x is not considered a suspension. It is considered a levitation.

....but the thread does ask for the best levitation....though I admit that these bigger illusions aren't ideal for kids' parties.
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I have always had the school of thought that Donald has, but that's because the Super X has always been referred to as a suspension at, around, or near Abbott's which is very close to home for me.

I would really like to hear from this source that Donald names, "Encyclopedia of Suspensions and Levitations", if anyone owns or has access to one.

Additionally, most of the guys I've spoken with that make illusions refer to them as suspensions and are pretty firm on a levitation having to rise and decend to be called just that.
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If there's nothing apparently holding up the floatee, it wouldn't be called a "suspension", surely?
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I agree with doug. I think the problem lies in what we as magicians see versus what the audience sees. when you look at it and know how it is done, then it is clearly a suspension. However, if the audience sees nothing "suspending" the helper then it really shopuld not be seen as a suspension. Just my thoughts is all. I am sure we could go on and on over this. lol Regardless of definition, there are some great levitations and suspensions out there. You have to determine which work bets for you in the venues you work.

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Rock out with your chair out Kyle! Smile
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Okay, I'll throw out my thoughts here. I always considered anything in which the person floats up or down a levitation while anything where a person remains in the air in one place would be a suspension. My logic is that a person that doesn't float up or down is suspended in air, where as a person who is floating up and down is levitating.

Just my two cents.

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On 2009-07-01 02:48, Potty the Pirate wrote:
I may start using Roger's Cloth of Invisibility, as it's funny and neat, plays better by far than In-flight, in my opinion.



You are a smart man Doug. This is simply the best IMHO.
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My understanding is that what sets a levitation apart from a suspension is that a levitation is the moving up and down (or in other directions!) of a body. A suspension is someone being suspended in midair without movement. This is usually done by removing supports--as in the case of the super X or the flying carpet, which is really the same illusion--or the suspended object could be positioned by the magician into the suspended position, a la the broom suspension. (Hey, Kyle, you got your broom suspension? Have you been using it much?)

I guess you could then break down suspesions to be two types: one with no visible means of support--super X/carpet--and those with a visible means of support: chair suspension, and the Idian faker suspension.

Anyway, that's what I was taught. I got that levitation / suspension book Donald talked about. It's got great ideas some of which I don't undetstand how they could work.

BTW, zombie would be a levitation under these definitions.

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On page "v" all by its self, in the Encyclopedia of Suspensions & Levitations is the following quote:

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DEFINITION
"... A LEVITATION involves the raising into the air of a human being...while a SUSPENSION means the placing of a person in an impossible state if disequilibrium, and maintaining him there, sometimes without any visible means of support."

WILL DEXTER from "This is Magic"


Based on this definition, if a persons moves, "floating up and down", it is a levitation. Like the chair suspension, the Super X, and many variations of it are suspensions.

Posted: Jul 9, 2009 6:22am
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"Best Children's levitation in the living room parties?"

Strictly speaking there is no BEST "living room" levitation. (Floating up and down)

Setting aside the weight of the illusion, the extra trip to the car, speaking of suspensions, not levitations, the uniqueness of different home made suspensions, the chair suspension, in my opinion, is the best suspension for a birthday party.

Now, I like but haven't built the See-saw Suspension where the center fulcrum is pulled away. (Similar to a super-x but two children see-saw, then stand on the ends and the center is pulled back)

BTW, Potty the Pirates method of the Flying Carpet suspension is very good! I suspect it is an altered version of the original concept adding depth to the illusion, giving it a "floating" sensation.

Dennis

Posted: Jul 9, 2009 6:41am
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If I ever offer a chair suspension, it will be the one where both chairs are removed.



This is possible with the See-Saw suspension where the chairs "appear" to hold the ends. The center fulcrum is pulled back first, then one chair, than the other chair.

This can be found in "Do the Stuff That is You" Vol I, by Chris Caray
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Thanks for bringing "closure" so to speak to the great debate Dennis! The laws of Dexter have spoken! Smile
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