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And climbing!
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I have no doubt she will make a million from her singing...and another million when she signs a contract with Jenny Craig or Extreme Makeover!
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Absolutely everything on television is producer driven. This isn't to take anything away from the amazing Susan Boyle, but I guarantee the entire storyline was written out. From her opening remarks, the "weary" judges to the "surprise," the producers (Simon being one of them) had, like with Paul Potts, brilliantly manipulated the strings. There are absolutely no surprises. This story is as handcrafted as the "tension" between Paula and Simon.
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On 2009-04-19 18:46, Chessmann wrote:
Oh, yes, she is. Most definitely - in fact, I think she is a little better in her genre than Potts is in his (I sing opera, and like it better than show tunes).


I very much agree. Potts aint bad, but there's a lot of tenors who are better (at times his voice sounds strained) singers and have a more unique voice. She's got a nice overall "sparkle" about her and nice, lively pure voice.
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On 2009-04-19 18:46, Chessmann wrote:
Oh, yes, she is. Most definitely - in fact, I think she is a little better in her genre than Potts is in his (I sing opera, and like it better than show tunes).


I very much agree. Potts aint bad, but there's a lot of tenors who are better (at times his voice sounds strained) singers and have a more unique voice. She's got a nice overall "sparkle" about her and nice, lively pure voice.


I agree with both of you, but popularity is a funny thing. Andrea Bocelli is a good but my no means a great tenor, but the public loves to buy his records and attend his concerts. Perhaps both Potts and Boyle can enjoy Bocelli-like careers.

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Yeah, Bocelli is good, but he is....should I say a contemporary tenor. A pop tenor essentially, one that has "intruduced" that genre to the general public-sort of "classical singing for dummies" if I exaggerate. But we do have someone like Sarah Brightman, whom the public loves and she indeed has a stunning voice and quite a vocal range.

I believe Potts' main appeal is his "cell phone salesguy to opera singer" thing. He lacks originality in his performance, for instance his "Music of the Night" was really rather poor-at least one performance I saw, he mimicked certain vocal mannerisms of the (original Phantom) Michael Crawford and tried to do the quiet high notes and in the end really failed with the song (but the audience went wild).
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Susan, on the other hand is still climbing. Her meteoric ascent has only just begun, I would guesstimate. She made the cover of U.S.A Today, today. That's a pretty grand accomplishment in only ten days!!

So what was the story about? As I said in an earlier post, It was analysis, trying to get to the bottom of exactly why she has touched a nerve. Everyone wants to know her secret.

Poor girl, they're going to analyze and scrutinize her to death!

Anyway, it's pretty well known that those who gain overnight success, those who reach the top without "paying their dues" have a pretty good track record of going off the deep end. I want to state that my bet is on Susan in this case that she will handle her fame with grace.

What really has me thinking, though, is this: The judges stated that they had learned a lesson. A "wake up call." I am anxious to see if they truly DID learn their lesson. (The golden rule applies here: "Treat others the same way you would like to be treated.")

Time will tell.
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Well, she's an overnight success after 35 years. She said she started singing at age 12.
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Cowel (What talent has that pratt got anyway,,,a big mouth but no bottle and a bunch of fans who keep him rich !!.



His talent is being an annoying jackass. As magnificent as she is at her chosen line, he's better at his.
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Well spoken!

Perhaps a bit humbler annoying jackass now, though?
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Gobsmacked? You a limey there Dougster?

I want to protest Destiny mentioning Celine, I now need to vomit.


Why would anyone have problems with Simon Cowell? He speaks what many think, and is in a business where being PC and sensative cost money. On Idol he is representing a company that has to sign the winner and he and his pals make money depending on how well they do. I don't blame him at all for trying to direct the votes and from what my friend, who spent a lot of time back stage when his sister was on Idol, Simon was always polite and friendly. I actually think on that Brit version the other guy, Purse or whatever his name is, is the bad guy. I don't have a clue who the woman is but I sure like the two hosts. I saw them on a show on TV and thought they were very funny.

Paula Abdul I think is good looking but let me tell ya, she has to be on something cuz during Idol she gets more out of it as the show goes on. I say bring Sharon Osborne on.
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Gobsmacked? You a limey there Dougster?


No. And I'm not French but I regularly use noblesse oblige and other French terms almost daily. In fact, if it's a word, it's fair game to me. Check out my new website.
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No thank you, I'm not interested in peoples web sites. I take it you eat tucker and say cheers and all that nonsense? Odd.

Hey UKers, make sure to announce if this gal wins the contest or not, if it isn't over yet.
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This whole thing is as fake as Pamela Anderson's breasts. They're real, just manufactured, just like Susan Boyle. NO WAY she has not had formal training to belt out that song. It's an extremely difficult song to sing half decent. There's no doubt she's got a great voice, but I'm really not buying the frumpy housewife thing. I say she was purposely dressed down for that. The judges all looked so shocked. Trust me, they knew what she was capable of. Cowell is the creator of the show and definitely knows how to weave a story like this to produce ratings. There is NO such thing as reality TV. Not even the news.
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They don't deny, and there was an article about her some where here, that she has sung at festivals and as a feature performer for years. The winner from the last season of UK has Talent is her pal and she has performed with him for years and he put her up to trying out. Now that you mention it she did say that was her first time in front of an audience so that part is made up if you believe the article. She is an ugly broad that can sing, I'm an ugly guy who cannot, she wins.
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Someone offered her $1,000,000 to do a porn film. LOL!
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If Ron Jeremy can make money doing it I'm sure she can.

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'Young Stevie Wonder' steals spotlight from Susan Boyle

LONDON, England (CNN) -- Move over Susan Boyle. A week after the Scottish woman became a global sensation following a barnstorming audition on "Britain's Got Talent," a 12-year-old Welsh boy with a Motown voice has been hailed for his "life-changing" performance on the TV show after earning a standing ovation from Simon Cowell.

Full article here


Check out the next carefully manufactured emotional moment from Simon.


Does anyone still believe that this show is not a setup? Kid gets a huge buildup, Simon stops the kid during the first verse, setting up a big disappointment moment to build tension, then the kid comes back to wow the audience with a song that he just happened to have already ready to play, almost as if he were expecting to sing it.
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I knew the show was a setup for some time, the articles written by the magicians who appeared on the show for Magic Magazine last August really reinforced it. This shows that they're just not trying anymore. It's bad drama and acting yes, but how many bad dramas (and comedies) and acting are on TV these days anyway?
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Did anyone ever believe that all the TV talent shows were anything but setups? There is a reason that they audition so many and keep so few. It's entertainment, baby.

At least "So you think you can dance" bills their winner as "[Insert you country here]'s most popular dancer" and not "the best dancer".

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Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats
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