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Clinton W. Gray New user 100 Posts |
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I just see no profit in name-calling, pointing fingers, getting upset, defensive or tweaked-out just cuz one or the other has a differing point of view. Of course not, bullies never do because it rarely happens to them. However, to be on the receiving end of a bully, sometimes getting upset and defensive is all we can do. I quickly listed the main signs of bullying (as seen in a schoolyard) and Dean you seem to exhibit all the symptoms: Positive views towards violence, often in a joking manner: Quote:
Careful, that finger could poke your eye out sometime. Often aggressive towards others: Your comments are full of bracketed remarks they are very aggressive in context. Considers teasing a form of humour: Dean constantly make comments like: HEHEHEHE (in a taunting manner) in response to legitimate concerns from others. This is stereo-typical bully behavior. Marked need to control and dominate others and situations Dean, you never back down on anything, admit you might have made a mistake, or even apologize for your actions. Good at talking their way out of difficult situations You are extremely good at this. Whenever someone challenges you, you have an aggressive rebuttal within minutes. Show little sympathy toward others who are bullied You never seem to stand up for "the little guy" that needs your support. Eric Paul and Joel Bauer don't need you to defend their position.
Clinton W. Gray
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
OK, I THOUGHT we were gunna get back on track.
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Often aggressive towards others: Typing on a FOURM leave us little or NO room to ‘emote’ or provide content in CONTEXT of representation… we are missing almost ALL of the communication markers… body launguge, vocal intonation, tempo toality… if you could see or hear all that NONE-OF THIS would be happening… I have said this many times. I WISH it were better and that I was better AT IT, but it is what it is and 99% of the communication mis-haps are as a DIRECT result f just this… BUT its what we have to work with. I am sorry. Quote:
Careful, that finger could poke your eye out sometime. REALLY??? Did ya’ SEE his Aviator??? – It was a JOKE man! Come ON a bit of sanity please! Quote:
Considers teasing a form of humour: Again, misunderstanding and interpretation of the facts… AGAIN, limited form of communication in “typing” alone. I use this to HELP show I am NOT mad, angry, upset… anything! – I am not at all. Just cuz YOU don’t LIKE it does not make it wrong as you would have it appear my friend. I find it odd that “you know better what I had intended and meant that I do”, but I pay the price for YOUR ‘interpretation’. – How is THAT me being a bully of any kind? Hey I have apologized, and admitted as recent as my last post (again) that this is all just my opinion and experience an personal insights… NOT law or cast into stone and that, just one guys share. That’s all! And now all this??? - - Yikes! Quote:
Marked need to control and dominate others and situations Read may last comment, my last post and almost ALL of my share to date on this thread… that is practically ALL I have done here… interesting you choose not to acknowledge this. And yet hold others accountable to what you refuse to acknowledge and the TRUTH of the matter… interesting. Quote:
Good at talking their way out of difficult situations How am I being aggressive here? All I have done is SHARE my opinions and experience… I am NOT the one “bullying” anyone here. – Again, the magic of lousy communication options and typing alone… but you have your mind set acted as judge, jury and executioner. Quote:
Show little sympathy toward others who are bullied Not ‘defending’ Joel or Eric… commenting on MY OPINION and EXPERIENCE. Listen, “again”, I apologize for how ever my poor typing skills have contributed to what-ever misunderstand that some of you have with me. NOT my intention. Just sharing one guys ideas, thoughts, insights and experiences… I have NEVER indicted anyone… but you have already figured out what I meant and who you think I am and told everyone what I said and meant in my offerings. YOU are the bullying expert, not I… you should know better. I wish it could be different… but I can not, nor am I trying to change you mind because you already have you mind made-up and I have been found guilty of your “interpretation” of the situation and circumstances at hand. That is too bad cuz we ALL loose when magically, “others know better they we do about what we said and what we meant.” Anyone can take a line or two out of context and mount a trial by fire here… it is not the best way to do things, but it sure is a good way to be judge, jury and executioner. – WOW! How sad we are taking valuable time away for the real success discussion at hand… I will ask again (with-out-snappy-retorts this time please…) Can we PLEASE get back to the success and marketing discussion at hand? Thank you. I am, as always at your service and In HIS Service, Dean <><
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3163 Posts |
Clinton, read the signs of a true friend list, and then you will understand why most of us here view Dean as a friend rather than a bully.
But enough so back on topic: I'm not a fan of Eric's either, but honestly I think if I received a copy of something like that in the mail and then within a day or two received a letter talking about the same thing, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd just view it as an early sales pitch and nothing more. Tom
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MikeClay Special user Atlanta GA 761 Posts |
I do some marketing for a nationally known public speaker.. and He, in the past has taken published shorts and had them reproduced as newspaper articles it was more effective than just sending a print out of a article he had written..
also I have used the fake articles before.. it even says "Mike can't walk on water, but his mom thinks he can" and many other jokes like that I think some are trying to be to literal.. if done right it can be one of many tools used to promote yourself.. false data given in a way that it's obviously a fake is fine while intentionally misleading someone is unethical.. but isn't that GREY area?? isn't misdirection KEY to your JOB.. I think it comes back to ethics.. some people have them others don't if used ethically this is a viable marketing tool.. but like almost anything.. it can be misused..
its ok.. balloon dogs don't bite
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RobertBloor Inner circle The Socialist Republic of the USA. 1051 Posts |
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On 2009-04-17 12:21, prestyman wrote: If Dean's a bully, certainly you would be self-righteous. Forget back on topic. I think the original post has been adequately answered 20 different ways. I say time to lock this one.
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"
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Clinton W. Gray New user 100 Posts |
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If Dean's a bully, certainly you would be self-righteous. I couldn't agree more.
Clinton W. Gray
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2009-04-17 19:03, RobertBloor wrote: Congrats on your promotion Robert.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
So, how 'bout them (Fill In Your Favorite Sports Team Here)??
...it's a joke. Hey, I have an idea... anyone wanna' talk about SUCCESS and Marketing here?
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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RobertBloor Inner circle The Socialist Republic of the USA. 1051 Posts |
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On 2009-04-18 12:47, TheDean wrote: Only if Danny gives his permission. ;-)
"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government,"
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Hehehehehehe!
Love it!
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
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On 2009-04-18 22:57, RobertBloor wrote: I know you want to deflect this but YOU were the one locking the thread.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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TheDean Inner circle Reno, Nevada 2164 Posts |
Yep!
This is a killer way to get something out RIGHT AWAY and make a super-cool impact! I have used this for a few years and when I do, I use it to feature the people that book me as the hero for booking me… I make it fun and funny! The last one I did booked me a huge association convention as THE highest paid speaker at the event! (And there were some national speakers booked too…) I do NOT tell you this to impress you, I share this to “impress-upon you” how powerful focusing the value of your marketing on THEM will produce for your success business! Cool eh’? I am at your service and in HIS Service, Dean <>< PS I WILL say that I was to ONLY speaker to get a PERFECT 100% (+) Score from attendees on the evaluations sheets as well! OK, NOW I may be bragging a bit! Hehehehehehehehe!
Dean Hankey, *M.D. - The Dean of Success Solutions!
Serving & Supporting YOU and Your Success! "Book More Shows... Make More Money... SERVE MORE PEOPLE! - Not Necessarily In That Order…" (*Marketing Doctor) |
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Reuben Dunn Inner circle Has a purple ribbon wraped around my 1592 Posts |
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On 2009-04-14 23:38, jackturk wrote: Millard Grubb/David Harper taught the same thing in his Mentalist/Magician marketing course. Not a really bad idea, espcially from a mentalist perspective, "Lets' see how we can make this prediction come true." written on a cover note with the "article". A novel way to get in the door. |
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TonyB2009 Inner circle 5006 Posts |
I'm not sure how this relates to the substantive topic here (as opposed to all the sub-topics!). But a number of years ago I decided to help out a friend who was trying to break into magic. He wanted to be an illusionist.
At the time I was working on a local paper, and he had a gig coming up. So I wrote a puff-piece for him. I described him as the best illusionist in the coutry, and threw in a line about him having helped Copperfield design some of his illusions. Nobody takes these publicity articles seriously. Unfortunately my friend did. To this day he believes what I wrote! He still talks of Copperfield as a personal friend, even though he never even met him. During a fun few years on the newspaper I managed to do a few things like that. The local library in east Clare had a special mystery guest coming for book week. I knew who the guest was, because I was the guest. But to drum up interest I floated the rumour that singer Kylie Minogue was the guest. Minogue is an east Clare name, so the story had an element of believability. I got a huge crowd for my show. On another occasion Paul Daniels was performing at a convention in our city. I put a piece in the paper that on Friday at three he was going to levitate a local landmark. A pile of people showed up to prevent him desecrating the landmark. A bit sneaky, but his show was full. Most publicity is harmless, just as long as you don't make my friends mistake and believe it.
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