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Michael Skinner's Ultimate Three Card Monte - I've gone back to this one lately, and was wondering if anyone does it standing up, without a table? Any pointers?
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Interesting question! I have never done it without something to lay the cards on. Once this entailed doing it on the back of plate held by the spec. Almost any small flat surface will do.

I would think to do it fully without a surface you would have to change the order of things, and make it more of a dealing approach, where you slowly deal and count the cards from one hand into the other, and then turn them up and they are different.

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Look into Gordon Bean's Monte 3.0
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Gordon Bean had a monte called 'Temptation 3.0' which is very good.
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Could tuck them into the waist band of your pants. Be kind of odd looking but it would work if no other surface was available.
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On 2009-05-02 08:05, ross welford wrote:
Michael Skinner's Ultimate Three Card Monte - I've gone back to this one lately, and was wondering if anyone does it standing up, without a table? Any pointers?


Ross

I understand the growing importance of strolling routines. I'm wondering however if the Three Card Monte is not a routine where keeping the cards in the hands is not dramatically reducing the impact.

Your question is actually raising an interesting challenge for the non complacent performer.
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Instead of the Mike Skinner routine, for strolling or "in the hands" use, I would suggest either Ton Onasaka's "Royal Flush Tonte" (which comes in a great package deal, with the cards in both poker size and jumbo), with a DVD taught by Bob Sheets, or else the "Killer Kitson Miracle", Patrick Page's wonderful improvement on the Dutch Looper Monte, also taught by Bob Sheets.
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I think there is no need to create a new topic just for that little following question:

Does someone know where to find gaff cards for that routine with standard Bicycle backs? Smile
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SKinner's Monte is distributed in standard Bicycle backs. If you didn't get Bikes, you probably didn't get Skinner's.
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It is now issued in Bicycle backs, but for many years was issued in Hoyle backs.
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On 2009-05-03 03:13, yif wrote:
I think there is no need to create a new topic just for that little following question:

Does someone know where to find gaff cards for that routine with standard Bicycle backs? Smile

They are available from Marty Grams at martinismagic.com
The gaffs for this were not original with Mike Skinner. The Ultimate Monte routine was merely his version. There have been many, many handlings of this particular set of gaffs going back decades before Skinner's version.
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Isn't Sidewalk Shuffle a variation on Skinner Monte?
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Isn't Sidewalk Shuffle a variation on Skinner Monte?
"Sidewalk Shuffle" uses a different set of gaffs. In the book "Martin's Miracles" Martin Lewis credits his inspiration for "Sidewalk Shuffle" to a trick marketed by Ken Brooke called "The Only Three Card Trick with Four Cards," an effect by Joe Riding. I have no idea what the gaffs for that trick were like.
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On 2009-05-03 17:19, dyrwolf wrote:
Isn't Sidewalk Shuffle a variation on Skinner Monte?


The gaffs are quite a like for Skinner's and Sidewalk Shuffle but not the same effect of course. S.W.S. came out before Skinner's Monte did. Mike's routine maybe older then S.W. as stated above the gaffs are very old and are not Mike's nor are they Martin Lewis's or Joe Ridding's
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Check out CHASE THE ACE... can't beat for a standup version. You can do it with the smaller or jumbo cards, as opposed to the GIGANTIC Chase the Ace Cards.

Ken Brooke considered it more a close up trick, even with the H U G E cards and the final sequence is in spec's hands.
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Other versions include Eddie Taytelbaum's "Find the Ace"(which Daryl teaches on "Daryl Does The Full Monte!") and Marty Grams and Rudy Hunter's "Million Dollar Monte". In 1908 Deland's put out a trick called "Pick it Out" using a similar gimmick but I haven't seen this trick to know if the gaffs were the same. many other handlings of this basic set of gaffs have come out over the years.

Skinner's handling is the one I use, as I feel it is a nicely crafted routine with many subtle details that help hide the method.

Although there are obvious similarities in the basic principal and some of the same moves are used,"Sidewalk Shuffle" uses a substantially different set of cards, and is a very different trick. You CANNOT perform the Skinner "Ultimate Monte" routine with the "Sidewalk Shuffle" cards, and vice versa.

I had the great pleasure of seeing Denny Haney perform "Sidewalk Shuffle" for an audience of magicians, and he had us all rolling in the aisles.

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Maybe "Bammo Monte Monster" by Bob Farmer?

"(...) Do it surrounded, completely in your hands, without a table. Perfect for walk around. Resets Automatically. (...)"
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Wow Thanks for all these responses: this is clearly a popular effect! I went for the Skinner's Monte simply because it was already on my shelf, but I'll check out the others, they're not expensive.
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Wow Thanks for all these responses: this is clearly a popular effect! I went for the Skinner's Monte simply because it was already on my shelf, but I'll check out the others, they're not expensive.
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