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Andi Peters Inner circle 1330 Posts |
Why pay for a gaff when Chris's original routine is sufficient.
Adding a gaff is taking a step back imho. |
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jprace Inner circle 2209 Posts |
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On 2009-05-26 20:57, Andi Peters wrote: The original routine uses four coins, one is secret. I never understood people who use 4 coins, but say a gaff is a step down. If you're going to have a 4th coin, why not make it a locking sliding shell or other gaff? It's like the same thing. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2009-05-26 21:29, magicman4646 wrote: Exactly, that is, assuming the gaff only replaces one coin and still leaves you with three examinable coins. This is the only way that a gaff could be a step down, if more than one coin is gaffed and thus un-examinable.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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jprace Inner circle 2209 Posts |
You are correct. That is what I meant.
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1220 Posts |
All coins are completely examinable.
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Paul h. Special user MINDoverMETHOD 528 Posts |
A new final coin transfer solution then--without letting the cat out of the bag.....?
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Andi Peters Inner circle 1330 Posts |
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On 2009-05-27 00:08, Michael Dustman wrote: No gaffed coin is examinable in its own right. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2009-05-27 08:50, Andi Peters wrote: Scotch and Soda
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Platt Inner circle New York 2011 Posts |
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On 2009-05-26 19:22, Paul h. wrote: I've already received a few emails regarding this post so let me answer it here. Blackout!, as far as I'm concerned, was not created for standard 3 fly technique. I'm sure someone out there can think of a way to make it work with 3 fly, but I created it specifically for an ultra-clean transposition of the last coin in a any closed fists coins across routine. No shell or flipper or any gimmick ever allowed me to that. So there you have it. That said, I am very much looking forward to Kenner's release. I'll be at LVMI but I just wish I could get a ticket to Magiclive. Thanks, Platt
Sugar Rush is here! Freakishly visual magic. http://www.plattmagic.com
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Andi Peters Inner circle 1330 Posts |
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On 2009-05-27 11:03, gdw wrote: Give S&S to a layman for inspection and he'll discover all is not not as it should be (dull tinny sound, different weight, slight recess, gap where the two halves of the gimmick fits together). |
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Paul h. Special user MINDoverMETHOD 528 Posts |
Platt,
Sorry if I posed any trouble... I did make it clear that the "last coin transfer" was in-the-hands, and NOT a finger-tip 3fly. Perhaps it helped sales!!! I look forward to purchasing this item from you in the future too. Best, Paul h. |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2009-05-27 12:33, Andi Peters wrote: Yeah, but if they are looking that closely you are not doing your job. Same goes if you are just handing them gimmicks to examine for no reason, lol
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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emyers99 Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 4741 Posts |
Having seen and handled the coins, I agree with M. Dustman re examinability of the coins. The coins are most likely not what you are expecting and they most certainly are in a different quality category than scotch and soda or similar gaffed coins.
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Andi Peters Inner circle 1330 Posts |
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On 2009-05-27 20:13, gdw wrote: Spectator management isn't the issue here. Examinability of the coin is. I stick to my claim that no gimmicked coin is completely examinable. |
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Brandon Delgado Loyal user St. Louis, Missouri 293 Posts |
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On 2009-05-29 10:29, Andi Peters wrote: I can think of one that is about as close as you can get. Think "Raven"... I understand what you're saying about the "complete" examinability of gaffed coins, but I think those like S&S are what you might call "casually examinable." They won't hold up to the scrutiny you mentioned earlier, but most spectators don't take their examinations that far. At least, I've never had one go that far. |
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Michael Dustman Inner circle Columbus, Ohio 1220 Posts |
I stick by my claim....Super Fly, Completely Examinable.
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broothal Elite user Europe 448 Posts |
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On 2009-05-22 02:54, Pete Biro wrote: Aah - now _that_ would be something. Also, it would enlarge the customer base and the need for various currencies. Please keep us updated on the key version. |
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Chad Sanborn Inner circle my fingers hurt from typing, 2205 Posts |
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On 2009-05-25 01:02, gdw wrote: Chris once told me he would probably NEVER release his mythical last coin work. We all need something to hold back and keep people guessing. |
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Douglas Lippert Inner circle E Pluribus Unum 2343 Posts |
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On 2009-05-30 12:32, Chad Sanborn wrote: I wonder what he IS releasing. Would be excited to see a new coin gaff.
Douglas Lippert
Former I.B.M. Ring #8 Secretary |
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Paul h. Special user MINDoverMETHOD 528 Posts |
Doug,
Im sure that everyone who has seen it has been told to be very tight-lipped about the release. I would just like a yes or no answer to seeing something new with the last coin, not exactly what it is! Paul |
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