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Did I see someone is getting implants?
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On 2009-06-18 22:53, MagicSanta wrote:
Did I see someone is getting implants?


For their EARS magicsanta...Smile
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Wow, I just found this topic, and read all of it.

Ron, you'll be in my prayers. I hope it all goes well.

This is truly exciting.

I also hope your deaf friends understand.
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Cool Ron.
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A good friend of mine who was HH going deaf got an implant about a year ago, and it changed her life. I hope everything works out for you!
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On 2009-06-18 22:53, MagicSanta wrote:
Did I see someone is getting implants?

I let this slide for awhile, then my mind conjured up a picture.

Ears ... implants ... DDD-cup or better...

MagicSanta, you owe me a night's sleep! Ouch!
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LOL. Yea, the only implant I'll get is in for my ear. Smile

Just thought I'd share an update on my adventure back tot he world of sound. My next appointment is on the 24 of this month (July) to get an MRI. The MRI tests a number of things but one of them is to test the part of my brain that interprets sound that the implant will work with (auditory nerve). But I tell people they have to test to make sure my brain is screwed on right. Smile

Some of you have asked me some questions. I'll answer them here as well in case anyone else in interested.

How well I'll be able to hear is yet to be seen. No one can predict this because it all depends on my brains ability to learn to interpret the sounds. At first I'll be able to hear sounds but I won't likely know what they are. I could be walking down the street and I wouldn't know if it's a car horn or a dog barking that I pick up.

At first I'll likely "Feel" sound. When I went in to get tested they put some hearing aids on me. When they tested me and I was suppose to push a button when I hear anything. I kept saying "I felt something there". It wasn't like I was hearing it. It was like something tiny was vibrating inside my ear. It tickled and itched a little. Basically my ear drum was moving for the first time in a long time and that "vibration" is what I felt and it tickled. That's likely what it'll be like when I get the implant at first.

Over time I'll be able to start to be able to distinguish one sound from another and that's when I'll actually begin to "hear" things rather then feel them. So understanding speech is likely going to be a ways down the road. I'll still have to lip read but I'll sometimes have sound along with it. Then eventually I'll start to be able to understand without looking. How far I'll be able to go I'll just have to wait and see. Some can understand half of the speech they hear after a few months then maybe a year later they can understand 90% of what they hear. Each case if different though. So I'll have to spend a lot of time practicing listening.

It's going to be quite an adventure. Smile


Here's a nice picture that explains a lot.
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Fascinating info- do keep us updated!

Oh- my wife would be happy if I understood 90% of what I hear. Heck, half the time she talks to me, and I have no idea she even told me something... and I have normal hearing (supposedly.) I think it's a guy thing- or that's what she tells me, I think...
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When people ask me when I lost my hearing I sometimes say, "The day I got married" LOL

I'm divorced now so of course I'm getting ready to start hearing again. Smile

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This is fascinating.

Ron,I wish you all the best on your journey.I do have high expectations for good results over time for you.You...I believe,have an advantage...since you have been training your brain all along with your magic creations.This is like building another effect from the ground up...with a little technical help.

All the best.
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On 2009-07-05 19:09, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Fascinating info- do keep us updated!

Oh- my wife would be happy if I understood 90% of what I hear. Heck, half the time she talks to me, and I have no idea she even told me something... and I have normal hearing (supposedly.) I think it's a guy thing- or that's what she tells me, I think...


Whew... I thought I was the only guy with this condition.


Hey Ron, when you talk, I am sure you feel the vibration in your throat as you talk, but are you able to hear/feel it in your ears or through your skull? I am excited for you to have this operation and hear things again. The tickling or itching feeling, is that similar to what you felt when I showed you my sound system a few years ago with the loud bass?
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Ron,

That absolutely incredible. Good luck buddy I wish you the best.

Robert
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Hey Ron, when you talk, I am sure you feel the vibration in your throat as you talk, but are you able to hear/feel it in your ears or through your skull? I am excited for you to have this operation and hear things again. The tickling or itching feeling, is that similar to what you felt when I showed you my sound system a few years ago with the loud bass?


I can feel my speech. Not like you hear it but I can feel when I'm talking. Believe it or not there are some who can't if they have strong nerve damage.

The sound from your car speakers was similar but this was more intense because the sound was feed right into my ear canal. I could feel the air pressure in my ear the sound was making and it tickled deep inside my ear.

Imagine you had a microscopic speaker. You know the part of a speaker that vibrates as it makes sound? I guess you could call it the "skin" of a speaker. Imagine this microscopic speaker was connected to your ear drum so the ear drum is the "Skin" of the speaker and you can feel it vibrating. That's the only way I can describe it. LOL Of course that is basically how the ear drum works anyway when sound waves reach it. But I could feel the movement as it vibrated. I was itching the inside of my ear the entire 2 hour drive home after the test. LOL

They did another test on me that always get's to me. They don't put head phones over my ears but ones that go on my skull. When this makes sound you don't "hear" it. You feel it. When they do low notes I can feel it vibrating slowly on my skull. But every time I've had this test done they hit this one note that drives me crazy. The first time I had it happen I ripped the thing off my head. I can't hear it. I feel it and it feels like my head is empty. I've seen people react to the finger nails on the chalk board and that's the same kind of reaction I have to this sound when using this skull speaker thing. But that's actually a good sign for the implant. It means my auditory nerve is working to some degree.

Sorry if I'm raving on and on about this. Sound and the ear has become a fascinating things to me lately.

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Ron... Will your adjustment to the device be easier since you were not born deaf but lost your hearing later. I would think that since you know first hand what sound is and have experienced it that it would help out a bit.
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Yea, that would give me an advantage over someone who was born deaf and has never heard anything before. I mean I can still imagine voices. When I lip read my mind usually fills in the sound of their voices. That's one of the things that will probably be interesting. I wonder how many of my friends voices match what I imagine it sounds like.

Having said that. They say that things won't sound like I remember them sounding with the implant. They say that the process of receiving sound is different then normal hearing so sound doesn't sound exactly the same. Kind of like how looking at the world with sunglasses looks different then without them. You can still see everything but it's altered by the color of the sunglasses.

I don't fully understand this for I haven't experienced it yet. But I can understand what that means. I mean when using the implant you're bypassing the ear drum and going right to the cochlea (Which is what interprets the sound to the brain). So of course sound will be picked up differently.

But I'm sure the fact that I use to be able to hear will be very helpful. In fact I was just thinking about this. I spend time on youtube watching videos of people singing songs that I know. Songs that I have heard back in the day and remember. So when I watch a live performance I can actually hear them in my mind from memory. Try it sometimes. Watch a live performance of a song you know with no sound. You'll be able to hear it in your imagination. Even singers you've never heard. You might be able to do what I do and imagine what their voice sounds like. I'm sure this will be helpful because I'll have something to associate the sounds I'm hearing with. I remember what it sounds like so as I listen again I think it'll be helpful in associating the sounds because I have heard them again.

I started a list of sounds that I remember and I'll check the items on this list out when I start to hear. I'm not sure if I'll be able to hear all of them again but I think this list will be helpful too.

It's a delicate balance because my success in hearing again rely partly on my desire to hear. In a nut shell if you're brain isn't in the mind set to "Learn" new sounds then you're going to have limited success. You have to allow your brain to accept the sounds for what they are even when they don't sound right. So it has a lot to do with the desire to hear again. At the same time if I get to confident in myself I might be setting myself up for frustrations. So I have high hopes but at the same time I'm trying to be as realistic as I can. For instance I want to hear all the sounds on this list of mine but I accept the fact that I might not hear all of them and I know I won't have "Normal" hearing.

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This looks like the same artist that illustrated my A&P book. Crazy.
Those rings coming off of the cochlea are filled with fluid that sloshes around to help you orient yourself.
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Here's a nice picture that explains a lot.
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A few of you have been asking me how things are going with this. I really appreciate that.

Well, it looks like I'm going to have to wait a little longer. They told me that they are waiting for my insurance to authorize it so that's pretty much all that's standing in my way right now. Waiting for the insurance to ok everything then they'll schedule my surgery. I'm hoping it'll be at the end of this month or maybe sometime next month. This right now is the hardest part of any "big" change. The wait.

I have an appointment tomorrow with my audiologist but that's just to decide which brand of implant I'll be getting. I'm still debating between the brands Advanced Bionics and Cochlear Freedom. So I'm going in to discuss it with them tomorrow and help me make my decision. Of course with anything like this there are going to be some people who like one more then the other. They both have features I like so it's a tough choice. Tougher then it may seem because it's a big decision. I mean this thing is going to be embedded in my skull after all. Smile

Well, I just wanted t give an update. I'm very anxious but trying to keep it in check for I know all I can do right now is wait.

Thanks again for all the encouragement.

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Good luck, Ron!
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I hope it all goes well Ron! I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

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Woo-hoo! Good luck, Ron!
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