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Wes65
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Curtis Kam gives some good insight into the art of ditching in his pocketbook. (A book that begs for further discussion. So much so that I'd like to use it as a topic starter.) Mostly he deals with ditching an extra coin by putting all or some of the visible coins away and going from there.


What are some of you favorite methods of ditching?

Do you have any that don't involve going to the pocket?
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ALWAYS find a good motivation...
for example..."OMG its cold " ,and naturally put your 2 hands in your pockets
or... "what time is it"? finding your cellphone...
just create your own lines and keep it simple Smile
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Sleeves, button down shirts, laps, top pockets.
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Ditching in the breast pocket of a button down shirt is somthing I use regularly. I love it it looks so clean.
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My favorites are the Workeroo and the Silent Butler! It doesn't get any cleaner than these 2 imo.
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On 2009-06-03 15:27, ray raymond wrote:
Ditching in the breast pocket of a button down shirt is somthing I use regularly. I love it it looks so clean.

Hi
I was just thinking of this the other day. Do you ditch the coin on your first magic pass(near pocket) or do you do it on the following passes.
Thanks
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Nothing worse than being left handed when it comes to a breast pocket ditch. Oh well!
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That's way All my Coats and Vests Have Four Pockets! Smile
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I ditch in my rear pants pocket (no jokes please . . .).

I perform Sankey's The Changeling a lot, also I'm a huge fan of attention direction.So when it's time to ditch with my left hand I lean diagonally forward and to the right, bending slightly at the waist. My right hand comes forward to show the signature transpo, and my left hand hovers naturally over the pocket - and I ditch.

P.S. I know it's natural because I discovered the left hand position by accident.
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For me, "when to ditch" is as important as "where" -- leading to an inclusion of 'Idle' as Subtlety in several of my ShareBooks, with thoughts on just keeping an object "out of service" temporarily, to be used later or ditched at an appropriate moment. Check out K&S GUIDE -- No Charge for serious performers.
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I needed to lose a coin right after the production of a large coin so I reached in my pocket for a scarf to polish the big coin and left the other coin behind. Simple but it works.
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I use a magnetic hold out in my right rear pocket. I never leave home without it.
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Yea You Allways Have to know Not just HOW To do something But When, Any WHY To do something!!!
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The methode I use most often, when I know that I will have to ditch one or more coins is very simple and works every time. If I have to get rid of a coin IN the course of a routine, I leave my coin purse on the table and when I need to ditch the coin, on the off beat once finish with my extra coin I simply pocket the coin purse and the coin at the same time. For the people, I simply clean the place before doing another magic effect. If I have to ditch a coin AT THE END of a routine, I pocket the coin purse at the start of the routine and at the end I simply reach inside my pocket to get my coin purse and ditch my coin on the same move.

I know, I know, it's not rocket sciences but soooooo effective!!!
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I don't ditch often... but, when I have to, I usually try to ditch in either my rear pocket or side coat pocket; I always try to do this under the cover misdirection and/or the of moving my body. For example, if I need to ditch to my right rear pocket, I would do so (ideally) while turning my left shoulder toward the spectator(s) and doing something with the left hand (coin roll, reveal a vanish, production, etc.)

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There is a whole section on the New York Coin Magic Seminar DVD's (volume 4), as well as several tricks, that use the concept of "matting", to ditch coins.
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On 2009-06-08 16:52, David Neighbors wrote:
Yea You Allways Have to know Not just HOW To do something But When, Any WHY To do something!!!


That says it all!

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On 2009-06-08 09:36, Mediocre the Great wrote:
I use a magnetic hold out in my right rear pocket. I never leave home without it.


I carry one coin in each pocket at the front and one magnet in each of my back pockets. I'm fortunate as most Canadian coins are attracted to them. This makes it easy to ditch/steal but of course at the right time and for the right reason. I sometimes (call me crazy) also keep a coin on top of my head just to be extra ready.

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I always carry a Sharpie marker with me and usually keep it in my right side pocket when performing magic that will leave me 'dirty'. After the effect is over, I pause briefly, and reach into my right pocket. I ditch the coin and come out with the Sharpie marker.

Then I'll hand the Sharpie to the spectator and say, "here, mark the spot on the ground where you plan to build my temple". Of course, this is said tongue-in-cheek and usually gets a brief laugh. The key of course, is not to nervously rush straight into the pocket immediately after the effect.

I got this idea from a wonderful book titled, Close Up Illusions, by the late, great, Gary Ouellet!

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Quite a few good ideas here, but just so people don't get the wrong idea, here's the caveat: there's a bit more to it than just having something in your pocket and taking it out.

Slydini used to point out that no matter what your excuse is for going to the pocket, the action will be suspicious unless the audience knows why you're going to your pocket Before you do it. During and after are too late. Suspicion will have already attached, and the "explanation" will only sound like an excuse.

That's it, warning over. Play safely.
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