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I've known the theorem for years, and been vaguely aware of the principles, but I've never properly studies Baysian methods before. I just started a bit of selfstudy (actually I'm trying to improve my facility with the R language) and WOW! It's starting to make sense.
Any other funloving Baysians out there? John
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The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.Yeats 
balducci Loyal user Canada 230 Posts 
I know and practice that of which you speak.
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balducci Loyal user Canada 230 Posts 
As you may recall, we had a discussion about R in this here forum a few months back. How are you using it to do Bayesian analysis? That's not really what it is specifically designed for, after all. Though you can obviously use it for that purpose.
But if you want to blow your mind with some computing software that is specifically designed to implement Bayesian analyses (using MCMC), you should look into BUGS / WinBUGS and OpenBUGS: http://www.mrcbsu.cam.ac.uk/bugs/ http://mathstat.helsinki.fi/openbugs/ And you might also enjoy this article about the Rev. Bayes: http://www.york.ac.uk/depts/maths/histstat/bayesbiog.pdf
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1064 Posts 
I grabbed the pdf book Statistics using R with Biological Examples by Seefeld and Linder.
The first part of the book gives a bit of basic R and reviews a some elementary statistics in a mathematically nonrigorous way. When I got up to Chapter 9, I followed a couple of basic Baysian examples that just made the ideas clearer to me than they had been before. At a completely "noob" level, I modeled a coin toss by first assuming that I didn't know what the probability distribution should look like. Then using R to successively modify the Beta distribution as I added new trials, the visual impact was quite compelling. I've heard about BUGS, but I haven't used it yet. I'll have to check it out in the next while, thanks. Learning more about MCMC is definitely on my todo list. Now I feel a bit goofy, but I guess what I first posted about was the intensity of the AHA! when I used R to work through some simple ideas. John
The blooddimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.Yeats 
balducci Loyal user Canada 230 Posts 
WinBUGS is much easier to use than R, for doing Bayesian problems ... especially advanced ones.
This is getting a bit off topic, but Persi Diaconis (a student of Dai Vernon's) wrote a paper recently about the bias in coin tossing. I have not yet read it myself, but it might interest you: http://wwwstat.stanford.edu/~cgates/PER......ithJ.pdf http://www.codingthewheel.com/archives/t......position Also: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~chance/chance_......ml#item4 Coin spinning is a step up from coin tossing. Because of the way different coins land when spun, a mixture of Beta distributions can be used as as sensible prior in this case. That makes for a more dramatic numerical illustration.
Make America Great Again!  Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No."  Craig T. Nelson, actor.

LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1192 Posts 
All the time, but only in conjunction with playing bridge or poker.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." 
LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1192 Posts 
Well, and evaluating sociopolitical claims.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." 
balducci Loyal user Canada 230 Posts 
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Make America Great Again!  Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No."  Craig T. Nelson, actor.

Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1064 Posts 
Thanks for all the links, Balducci. I'll read the Diaconis paper this week. I'm looking at BUGS, but it'll take me a while to decide if I'm ready for it yet.
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The blooddimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.Yeats 
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