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Antares,

when I have finished creating my "cage cover" I will posting a picture here.
For now it seems a bit provisionally made.. I also now have to find another container
for the coffee.. cause the the cage does'nt fit into a normal mug anymore
(after the ring is "specialy" locked inside the "cage"..)

I'd love the "creation" cage you've posted:
http://www.vikingmagic.com/?nd=full&key=87.

also a nice idea for reproducing the ring is to use a simple holdout..
with some sleight of hands anything is possible..

show your hands empty.. drop your sleeves..
when the chain is lowred into the coffee.. hold your hand like: thumb and forefinger are together in a closed v position... hiding the chain and padlock from spectators view.. grap it fast.. give it a shake and let it come off.. or take a towel for drying the padlocked ring.. the ring comes off..
(maybe it is possible to show the ring is still on the chain (with a ring and rope move) it has penetrated the padlock and then let it come off.. just an idea..

no vanishing but a impossible penetration effect.
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Hi ArtIn,
Just wondering if there are any negative/adverse effects from letting the ring vanish in the coffee whilst its in a small metal cage. Will the prop be damaged in any way by being immersed in the coffee whilst inside another metal structure?
I bought this cage on ebay and I am waiting for my CSI to arrive so I'm just trying to get prepared.

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if the bottom of the cage is solid, you cannot use CSI
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I would think a simple modifcation would enable it to work.
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I have drilled small holes into the base of the cage, so it should work. The cage is of copper and brass construction, if that makes any difference?
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Pm sent antares
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Do you guys know tea eggs? Smile

tea eggs also having nice chains to hold
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Well my performance went very well with CSI. I have delayed in posting because I was not sure how my reset would be. It went very well and I can now say as of 10 min. ago I have completed the necessary reset with no problems. It took me half an hour all total.

I am very pleased with this effect and will make it a regular at my shows. I highly recomment it.


Good magic to all,


Eric
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On 2009-07-02 02:41, shield wrote:
I posted this on the bizarre section:
_________________________________________________________________________________

Ok just had my first test run with this effect. It was beautifully timed. I was helping a friend of my boss with some web design, when my boss came upstairs with a steaming hot cup of coffee for me.

I just so happened to be showing them my own site as an example of what they could do, when this person asked what sort of magic and mentalism I performed.

I had the ring on my finger, and the padlock and chain in my pocket. Everything had come together perfectly. I said "let me show you", and then went into an off the cuff story about houdini and his amazing escapes.

She handled everything herself. Put the chain through the ring. Padlocked the ring to the chain. Dipped the ring into the coffee. And when I finally finished my story and she retrieved the chain - the ring was gone.

Unfortunately because I had not reset the other gimmick (I used it last night as a test) I could not make the ring re-appear, but I have to say that the reaction was still incredible! Stone cold silence, and then a little "oh my god" under her breath.

I love CSI, I can't recommend this enough. There is a lot of reset involved, but my is it worth it. And I should note that not once did she ask to taste the coffee, or try to get her fingers into the cup.

If you really want to floor your spectators, this is a great way to do it. I'm going to test it out on a large group this saturday night, and hopefully get a bit better story down! I haven't performed any 'magicky' effects in quite a while, but I think that there are some great ways to present this with a more bizarre storyline.

Luke


That's dicey. I wouldn't do that again without the reappearance part. Obviously, you got good spectators there, but what if you run into one of those problem solver types? Or a chemistry student from UCLA. Smile Also, imho, just to have it reappear is not good enough. I would want the spectator's thoughts to be far away from science as possible. Even though I do not own this trick, I have a suggestion to all of you who have it. My suggestion may change the whole point of the trick, but it's an option especially if you know you're up against a very intelligent problem solver. Here's the idea: Use a himber wallet or any box that can be show empty and then loaded. In order to take your spectator's thoughts far away from science as possible, try to convince them that the ring was actually stolen out of the padlock right before their eyes. Say, that was the Magic of Houdini, he could hypnotize you and do things while you're in a trance. Of course the spectator is not going to believe you because he's been handling the ring the whole time. When he pulls up the chain and sees the ring has vanished, you then reproduce it from your box. I would then even expose the workings of the box, and explain to him.."See, this is a gimmicked box. Here's the secret flap, this is where I load your ring after I took it from your chain while you were in a trance." The spectator will be left speechless, and may even believe that you truly took that ring away from him because why else would you need a box with a secret flap to load?

I know some of you may say this is running without being chased. I think this is playing it safe because after seeing the demos and reading the description, I immediately thought science. So this is an alternative idea for those of you who may be paranoid and want science to be the last thing that's on the spectator's mind. After-all if you're using a presentation around Houdini, this is very believable. Houdini doesn't magically vanished, everybody knows he's an escape artist. So what's wrong with convincing your spectator that the ring actually escaped rather than magically disappear? As a spectator I would believe in the escape idea before I would believe in something that can magically disappear. If you want me to believe that something can magically disappear, then I would exhaust all scientific explanation first and there lies the danger.
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Hey if any of you want to sell yours let me know.
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This looks to be a great effect; the demos are impressive. My only concern is that this is a method which is available from most of the science supply companies and easily found with a Google stroke or two. After David Blaine did a version (where he poured hot coffee on a nickel and it melted in his hand) I had several non-magician friends come to me with the method relatively quickly. Of course, that may have been Blaine's mistake - to show the actual method instead of creating a nice presentation like Dan has.
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Here is a neat idea that I had. What if the CSI was a key for a pad lock instead of a ring. So you borrow a ring from a spectator, lock up the ring in a padlock. Attach a key to a chain and vanish the key. The spectator will get worried at this point, because the key to unlock their ring has vanished. They key can then be reappeared wherever desired.
I personally like this idea, because it allows the ring the be borrowed, and places the spectator on an emotional roller coaster with her ring.
Can the metal used for the ring be made into a key?

Tatanka Tan
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Quote:
On 2009-07-21 06:05, gilbreath76 wrote:
Quote:
On 2009-07-02 02:41, shield wrote:
I posted this on the bizarre section:
_________________________________________________________________________________

Ok just had my first test run with this effect. It was beautifully timed. I was helping a friend of my boss with some web design, when my boss came upstairs with a steaming hot cup of coffee for me.

I just so happened to be showing them my own site as an example of what they could do, when this person asked what sort of magic and mentalism I performed.

I had the ring on my finger, and the padlock and chain in my pocket. Everything had come together perfectly. I said "let me show you", and then went into an off the cuff story about houdini and his amazing escapes.

She handled everything herself. Put the chain through the ring. Padlocked the ring to the chain. Dipped the ring into the coffee. And when I finally finished my story and she retrieved the chain - the ring was gone.

Unfortunately because I had not reset the other gimmick (I used it last night as a test) I could not make the ring re-appear, but I have to say that the reaction was still incredible! Stone cold silence, and then a little "oh my god" under her breath.

I love CSI, I can't recommend this enough. There is a lot of reset involved, but my is it worth it. And I should note that not once did she ask to taste the coffee, or try to get her fingers into the cup.

If you really want to floor your spectators, this is a great way to do it. I'm going to test it out on a large group this saturday night, and hopefully get a bit better story down! I haven't performed any 'magicky' effects in quite a while, but I think that there are some great ways to present this with a more bizarre storyline.

Luke


That's dicey. I wouldn't do that again without the reappearance part. Obviously, you got good spectators there, but what if you run into one of those problem solver types? Or a chemistry student from UCLA. Smile Also, imho, just to have it reappear is not good enough. I would want the spectator's thoughts to be far away from science as possible. Even though I do not own this trick, I have a suggestion to all of you who have it. My suggestion may change the whole point of the trick, but it's an option especially if you know you're up against a very intelligent problem solver. Here's the idea: Use a himber wallet or any box that can be show empty and then loaded. In order to take your spectator's thoughts far away from science as possible, try to convince them that the ring was actually stolen out of the padlock right before their eyes. Say, that was the Magic of Houdini, he could hypnotize you and do things while you're in a trance. Of course the spectator is not going to believe you because he's been handling the ring the whole time. When he pulls up the chain and sees the ring has vanished, you then reproduce it from your box. I would then even expose the workings of the box, and explain to him.."See, this is a gimmicked box. Here's the secret flap, this is where I load your ring after I took it from your chain while you were in a trance." The spectator will be left speechless, and may even believe that you truly took that ring away from him because why else would you need a box with a secret flap to load?

I know some of you may say this is running without being chased. I think this is playing it safe because after seeing the demos and reading the description, I immediately thought science. So this is an alternative idea for those of you who may be paranoid and want science to be the last thing that's on the spectator's mind. After-all if you're using a presentation around Houdini, this is very believable. Houdini doesn't magically vanished, everybody knows he's an escape artist. So what's wrong with convincing your spectator that the ring actually escaped rather than magically disappear? As a spectator I would believe in the escape idea before I would believe in something that can magically disappear. If you want me to believe that something can magically disappear, then I would exhaust all scientific explanation first and there lies the danger.


I understand your point, however I think you are overthinking this. If your presentation is strong enough, I don't see why you would need to go to those lengths. We all have different performance styles though! And yes, I did know that performing this for these people I would not need to make the ring re-appear. They are the type of spectators that just love magic and being amazed.

Keep in mind they get to stir the coffee, and inspect the ring beforehand.

The woman who dunked the ring is still talking about it now.

Luke
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On 2009-07-22 10:45, MagicOfT wrote:
Here is a neat idea that I had. What if the CSI was a key for a pad lock instead of a ring. So you borrow a ring from a spectator, lock up the ring in a padlock. Attach a key to a chain and vanish the key. The spectator will get worried at this point, because the key to unlock their ring has vanished. They key can then be reappeared wherever desired.
I personally like this idea, because it allows the ring the be borrowed, and places the spectator on an emotional roller coaster with her ring.
Can the metal used for the ring be made into a key?

Tatanka Tan


I this is a very good idea!
...and the answer is yes

Enjoy
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Gunthard: I am with you...I just ordered mine about twenty minutes ago. Purchased, it through Hank Lees. It will be here on 7-28-09
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I had a huge party two days ago and I performed CSI along with my Samurai Sword and it absolutely floored everyone. No one suspected anything but I actually saw jaws drop when I walked over to the Sword and slowly pulled the cover up. It was so beautiful. I will continue to perform CSI along with my treasured Samurai Sword. I invite all of you to give it a try and if you like it---please feel free to use this idea. You will see the two go hand in hand.


Good magic to all,


Eric
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Interesting, you just gave me an awesome idea.
http://www.vikingmagic.com/?nd=full&key=88
I own this beautiful piece of magic. This and CSI would be a killer. As I said, mine arrives this Tuesday.
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Thumbtip,

When I actually performed it it went smoother than I expected. And when I lifted that curtain and spun the ring on the sword---wow it was great. Like I said I looked up and saw jaws actually dropped. I took the ring off the sword and handed it to a spectator who said it was the same ring! I really hope you like this effect with the CSI ring.


Good magic to all,


Eric
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Mine arrived today. Here is my review.

I was so excited about this magical marvel, that I had it shipped overnight. As stated in the instructions, watch the DVD that is supplied with CSI. When the unit was in the ready position and I submerged the locked ring in the coffee and lifted it out, my jaw dropped. It was gone. I then stirred the coffee with the stick and nothing could be felt. I was totally baffled and love when a routine blows my own mind. That sends a strong message telling me I will be able to blow my audience away, without any problem This is one of the strongest routines that I have seen in many years. I give this routine two thumbtips up. Get one as soon as you can, it is really killer magic. Not only am I happy with CSI, I love it.
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Thumbtip,

I'm glad you liked it. If you have any questions with the reset let me know ok? I found the second method to work the best on the reset.


Good magic to all,


Eric
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