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VincentLee New user 44 Posts |
Hello everyone,
acutally I want to buy a wallet for my B'day gift. I was compare so many wallet, but my awful english and poor mental knowledge, I have some question want to ask expert. I did compare SAW ( Stealth Assassin Wallet) TTW (Telethought Wallet) M3M (Outlaw M3M Wallet) Hideout (Outlaw Hideout) Q1. is "TTW" use the same concept or gimmick of "Thought Transmitter"? if not, what's the effect can "TTW" do? Q2. what is "KK effect" / "KK routine"? Q3. is "Hideout" combine those effect of them? may I get some expert who get any one can give some opinion? |
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David Rhodes Loyal user 282 Posts |
I have the Outlaw Hideout and love it.
KK is Kenton Knepper's Kolossial Killer. The effect is basically a thought of card in wallet. I personally use it a lot along with the many other one card versions. KK can easily applied to the Hideout and remain very hidden. |
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
I use the Hideout and I love it!
I don't own a Telethought Wallet or the Thought Transmitter so I cant comment on that. The Kolossal Killer effect is any card named by a spectator you can then remove from your wallet giving the impression that you ony hae one card in there. The Hideout Wallet is brilliant. You can see my review of it on the Outlaw site. (Although they have spelt my name wrong!) Peace & Love Matt |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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On 2009-06-09 02:50, Matthew Shepherd wrote: Spelling has been corrected |
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
Awesome!
Here is the link: http://www.outlaw-effects.com/store/the-......out.html Do I get a bag of crips for recommending the Hideout??? ;) Peace & Love Matt |
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Moonlightshadow New user 94 Posts |
I used to have a SAW, but my only complaint is that you can't keep your cash in it like you would in an ordinary wallet, so it looks... weird.
The thought transmitter is an electronic gizmo, that - if treated improperly - can give an annoying side-effect in darkened rooms, that is a little tricky in maintenance (batteries can wear out and are hard to replace), but the device offers the advantage that the wallet allows for a clean handling once the above issue is solved. Hideout is very good, it seems, but it has less functions than the saw. Personally, I don't use gimmicked wallets anymore. I used to, but I discovered that a healthy dose of switchcraft allows for a cleaner, more convincing handling and you don't depend on "having your wallet" on you. Also : since none of the gaffed wallets have room for change, I found them rather annoying to use as an everyday wallet. But all of them are good products. I just prefer the safety and "illusion of fairness" offered by a good switch. |
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
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On 2009-06-09 03:13, Moonlightshadow wrote: I would disagree to an extent. At the surface it may seem like the SAW does have a few more tricks up its sleeve than the hideout, however I have managed to perform anything I used to do with the SAW with my Hideout. With the proper handling you can do some P*****T W*****G and then pull a prediction out of your wallet, do the cash cabert effect, swami onto cards, even do a add a no effect with the wallet. Its the simplicity of the wallet that enables you to do all these things. Its mainly a peek and "out" wallet that can be applied to so much more. I think Roth was teasing us with the wallet. it screams "Find some new thigns for me to do!" everday! Then again its all an opinion. You cant beat a good billet p**k every now and again for that "pure" moment. I just know that whenever I have my hideout on me I can always perform miracles. I have so much stashed in it that its starting to become warped with effects!!! Its starting to look like a wallet I have had for years which is good for the deception side of things. I still have my SAW in one of my magic draws at home and since getting the Hideout I have never looked back. Looking forward to spending the rest of my pay cheque on the Outlaw site this month!!! Peace & Love Matt |
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VincentLee New user 44 Posts |
Thanks for everyone reply me^^
I think I will order my "Hideout" and one more question, is KK effect same as "bang on"? or anyone tell me where can I learn KK effect? |
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numizmata New user Budapest 64 Posts |
The Kolossal Killer effect is similar as the Bang On, but the secret is different.
I have an Outlaw Magnum Wallet, and I think is the best peekwallet. Its look like a common, everyday cardholder, but its devious... |
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
Bang on is in my opinion an inferior method.
Whilst you are always 100% bang on, you need a bit of pocket space. You can have the full KK rotuine in an everyday normal wallet and I find that the "out" if you can call it that is even stronger than the normal effect! Peace & Love Matt |
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tincture Special user 587 Posts |
Does the hideout have the 3m technology built in?
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
It does indeed!!
Peace & Love Matt |
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numizmata New user Budapest 64 Posts |
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On 2009-06-09 03:39, VincentLee wrote: You can buy every webshop, about 20USD. |
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VincentLee New user 44 Posts |
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On 2009-06-09 04:30, numizmata wrote: as I was ask two Magic supply in my country, they don't know whats KK effect. I also cant search any information of "Kenton Knepper's Kolossial Killer" in my Yahoo & Murphysmagic, can anyone please PM me the link directly? |
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Roth Inner circle The 18 5090 Posts |
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VincentLee New user 44 Posts |
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On 2009-06-09 05:54, Roth wrote: it was "Kolossal Killer", I was type Koloss[I]al Killer so many times so I went wrong @@ Thanks Roth~ |
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will4gzus Veteran user 311 Posts |
Matt, the hideout wallet has the 3m but into it? I thought it did not
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Matthew Townsend Inner circle 1302 Posts |
Mine does anyway! lol
It has the technology but it works slightly different. You have to have the wallet close to you for the technology to work. I believe in the Magnum you need to take a few steps back. In my opinion its the better of the two. I can even tilt the wallet towards the spec and they still cant see anything! Peace & Love Matt |
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waso New user 57 Posts |
I have the Mind Reader Wallet (the Thought Transmitter is very similar I believe). I prefer it to all other peek wallets, because there is no need to put a card inside a wallet (why?) worry about which side is up (again why?). I modified the gimmick to look like a regular post-it pad. Everything is already there and completely natural. It would be even better if it had a button lock.
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Jamie D Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2292 Posts |
I believe I wrote this before on another wallet thread but I own the hideout and the SAW. I love the Hideout as it looks like a normal wallet that you can keep your cash in as compared to the SAW which was stated above, there isn't a lot of room for cash. I use both depending on venues, if the lighting is low(dark, such as performing at a wedding recption) then I use my SAW. If the lighting is good then I use my hideout.The Hideout has so many pockets in it as well so you have so many outs if need be or you can carry tons of effects in it.
Daren
Twitter @darjames
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