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I perform Hand stuck on the table for a while now but I use a martial art technic for that( I knead the shoulder of the spectator a little bit and after he can't lift his arm,( it's not painful).

Where can I find a "more" classic method ?
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Are you pulling our collective plonkers?
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Well, I don't know any good resource, but could you tell me how do you use that martial art technique? Smile
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Here are some videos form Brian David Phillips, and probaly a few from me and John Cerbone demonstrating hypnotic or "classic" methods of doing this.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_ty......sis&aq=f
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Good stuff, thanks Richard.
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Hi,

when I first got into mentalism and I mean the first few weeks a friend of mine Gilles wrote up a transcript of Derren doing his hand stuck to table on Radio 1 - this was around the time of his first series in the UK.

I broke it down from a language perspective and the document has since replicated itself over the web.

You can find it here on stage hypnotists Blazes website.

http://www.hypnoticblaze.com/free_stuff/......rown.pdf

Compared to how I approach sticking people to things now this is quite wordy and complex. However it might give you a starting point.

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Thanks for that Ant! Smile
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On 2009-06-16 05:09, Anthony Jacquin wrote:
Hi,

when I first got into mentalism and I mean the first few weeks a friend of mine Gilles wrote up a transcript of Derren doing his hand stuck to table on Radio 1 - this was around the time of his first series in the UK.

I broke it down from a language perspective and the document has since replicated itself over the web.

You can find it here on stage hypnotists Blazes website.

http://www.hypnoticblaze.com/free_stuff/......rown.pdf

Compared to how I approach sticking people to things now this is quite wordy and complex. However it might give you a starting point.

Anthony


Dude, I didn't know that was you. Found that a long time ago, didn't do much for me though (the read was interesting, but I couldn't make it work w/o "hypnotizing" them first). Does anyone know where one could find the actual audio (or video) of Derren doing this?

Can you give us any hints as to what approach you would take?
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[quote]On 2009-06-18 04:36, jessewjoseph wrote:
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Can you give us any hints as to what approach you would take?


Yes. I suggest levitation first. Then stick.
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Hi Ant,
Why levitation first before the stick?

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I prefer to move from analogue to binary tests of my work when giving suggestions.

Arm levitation can succeed with sensation change or a finger twitch but can of course play much larger - you have lots of room for maneuver. Hand stick is a pass or fail (binary) test. Less room.

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In RIP you tended to teach arm levitation after induction. Here are you referring to doing it eyes open, without formally "hypnotizing" the subject?
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Formally or informally makes no odds.

If you check my definition of hypnosis you will understand what I mean. It does not require an induction. Without a formal induction you can just begin giving suggestions and assume a hypnotic relationship or cultivate it as they respond.


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Anthony - very interesting point about analogue versus binary responses, I've never thought of it like that before. Any thoughts on the transition from the one to the other? I'm sometimes surprised at how well an arm levitation works and then disappointed when something more binary fails later on.
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Having just studied Sean Andrews, I noticed that he does:

1) Eyes
2) Arm
3) Stuck

He'll actually get them to open their eyes, follow him, then stick their hand to a light pole or other nearby object... or stick hands to head and hips.
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Here is an interesting and recent study into why we can stick people to things.

http://www.newsday.com/news/science/wire......26.story

Enjoy

Anthony

Hostile, regarding the transition from alalogue to binary I tend to ratchet up the 'test' suggestions during my first binary suggestion. For example if it was arm levitation, I might say

'You can notice that arm as it continues to lift, you can try and keep it still and find it goes even higher, you can try and pull it down and find it lifts up, you can go deeper as you open your eyes and watch it lifiting. Put some effort it you are a strong man. Really have a go at getting it down. etc

Hope that helps

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As a first suggestion I always started with "The number seven no longer exists" before asking them to count their fingers. The challenge I found with this is that in many cases the subject is undoubtedly hypnotised but this suggestion doesn't always take hold. A couple hypnotists told me I was a twat for using this as a first suggestion as it's best to lengthen and deepen the process/hypnotee before attempting suggesting amnesia. I've since discovered they were right, I was a twat.
I was wondering if anyone has an actual 'favoutite' programme they run immediately after 'dropping' the client. My interest here is NOT in huge phenomena but rather small titbits.
ie: after a finger lock is there a teensy weensy suggestion that ALWAYS works for you, followed by another teensyweensy thing that ALWAYS works after the first teensyweensy thing? By the way I don't want to have someone believe they're playing the piano as a starter. It's a personal thing.

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On 2009-06-30 13:10, bobser wrote:
My interest here is NOT in huge phenomena but rather small titbits.
ie: after a finger lock is there a teensy weensy suggestion that ALWAYS works for you, followed by another teensyweensy thing that ALWAYS works after the first teensyweensy thing? By the way I don't want to have someone believe they're playing the piano as a starter. It's a personal thing.

bobser.


When doing a stage show if I have dropped everyone on the floor then I start with getting them to sit up (in a sunny park) then suggest an insect invasion. This starts with tenny itches and swats. If they are good then they get a chair. If they are not then they go back to their seat or make a nice pattern on the carpet.

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.... I like that. Made me laugh.
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What made me think of that is on occasion if I am working with an individual and I feel the need to start with tiny things I will start with a nasal itch. Keep suggesting this in various ways until you get a twitch and build from there. It is a bit like watching a float when you are fishing.

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