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On 2009-06-23 08:39, daghank wrote:
I am trying to get one, ordered it from 3 different places but after 1-2 days , got an e-mail saying its out of stock and wont be re-stocked.
I don't know if this is the right section to post but ( its a mentalism item)
does anyone know if mr biss sells these directly or any source to buy them?


I just ordered one from Hocus-Pocus so I know they have them!

Good luck!
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Sven,
It's strange to hear you say that IMB is a Rip-Off, when you yourself posted that you in fact participated in the unapproved sharing of construction information and created your own unauthorised version of my Clearly Q&A Board ?

The IMB is a realiable real time board for the worker, and I myself own two.

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With all due respect,

I got informations about CQ&A Board, and made a copy to try thje concept out.
If I had found it useful, I would have bought it to implement in my show.
People do such things pretty often, and also I, taken that I have real interest and the time.

Let me stress the fact that I grew up with, and learned certain standards in my home when it comes to honesty, ethics and moral.
Believe it or not, given that I have found your product useful, I would never, repeat never have implemented it in my show and performed it for money without having bought the product, - and the rights to perform it from you.
That would in my mind have been theft.

As some of you should know by now, I didn't like it,didn't purchase it from you, dumped what I made up, and have swiped it off my mind.

It is a huge difference between that, and to taking other people's ideas, creations,concepts or products, manufacturing it with no permission or reference, to sell it on the market for good money.

That's among other things what ripping off is as I see it.

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On 2009-06-23 09:59, Sven Rygh wrote:
The IMB is a rip off
Get the Buma Board if you must have one of these devices

Sven



Now, now Sven, let's not get into that argument again.

IMB is not a rip off, the Buma board, while an excellent tool, does not have the same flexability of use that the IMB does.

I vaguely seem to recall a topic that has since been wisely locked, that went over this.
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Ruben

The IMB tecnology is a direct copy of the Buma, but as I don't use toys like that in my work, I have neither intension nor interest in continuing the discussinon.

My only message here was that I don't appreciate rip offs, and IBM is one.

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On 2009-06-26 11:32, Sven Rygh wrote:
...but as I don't use toys like that...


TOYS??? Smile
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Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.
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On 2009-06-26 14:18, Domino Magic wrote:
Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.


To be fair, James doesn't hide this. In fact during a lecture, he told everyone how to make one for themselves.

What are you hoping to accomplish?

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If you read the post above my last post, Derek questioned the use of the word toy. I was verifying the fact that the IMB really is a $10 toy. Seeing as I've never been to a Biss lecture, I wouldn't know that he told everyone how to make one.

What are you accusing me of?
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On 2009-06-26 10:16, Reuben Dunn wrote:


IMB is not a rip off, the Buma board, while an excellent tool, does not have the same flexability of use that the IMB does.


The word is by the way, flexibility.
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On 2009-06-26 15:48, Sven Rygh wrote:
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IMB is not a rip off, the Buma board, while an excellent tool, does not have the same flexability of use that the IMB does.


The word is by the way, flexibility.


Please use commas properly. This would be called an interjection and would look like this:

The word is, by the way, "flexibility."

Quotes should also be used around the word "flexibility" to indicate that you are speaking about the word itself and also quoting someone from above.


Do you see how ridiculous that post makes me look? OK, good. Please act like a grown man.
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Thanks all for the info. Trust me I am well aware of the origin of the Buma / IMB boards, I had one of the first ever versions of these (as Mr Biss calls them, Noodle) toys and have since bought them for my kids.

My reference to "TOYS" was one of astonishment that Sven should refer to a Buma Board or IMB as a toy. The 'toy' I use in my avatar has helped me feed and clothe my family and pay the bills. Not bad for a 'toy' Smile
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On 2009-06-26 14:18, Domino Magic wrote:
Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.


I feel ripped off then that I didn't get the yellow pen holder!@ (heh, heh)

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Tee Hee!

The Magic Café can be full of such foolishness and repetition can't it? Some of the debate above has been explored exhaustively elsewhere. Surely we're not going to repeat all of the debate all over again. I think it was settled and many hundreds of mentalists and professionals around the world have voted with their wallets. But some people seem to have nothing better to do...

For the record, in 1974, four engineers from Pilot Pen Corporation invented a "dustless chalkboar­d." Their invention has become one of the most popular drawing toys, with more than 40 million sold since its introduction. It's called a "magnetophoretic display" and obviously none of US invented it. Countless children have enjoyed playing and learning with it, usually under the Magna Doodle brand name. I trace the origins of its application in mentalism with the instructions to the Impressionable Mind Board, including the Buma's serendiptious efforts in a different and very limited direction than mine, and again I explore this in Mind Blowing. And yes, in my lectures in various corners of the globe, I've gone into detail about this too.

I've no doubt that many other creative minds will evolve the technology that Pilot originated back in '74 and it's intriguing application to our beloved art. I certainly hope so! That evolution started with El Duco, not with Buma, and countless others that were less commercial. I hope this will continue.

Anyone that suggests that the IMB, the world's most popular design duplication prop for stage, is just a $10 dollar "toy" or a "rip-off" of something else is sadly misinformed. But then the legions of us that actually use the Impressionable Mind Board in our shows already know this and are well aware of its unique value of the prop and the routines that come with it.

For the rest, as always, my products are unconditionally guaranteed to delight you and your audiences. If there are actually any mentalists that aren't thrilled with their IMB I would be happy to reimburse them. Frankly, I have difficultly keeping up with demand and would be happy to find a new home for any unloved prop. No one has ever asked. On the contrary I get e-mails every week raving about IMBs. I think that says a great deal.

Enjoy yours and let's move on to more meaningful discussions and creative thoughts,

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Just tonight I was putting a secret something together for an agent. Here's a quick piece using IMB. (This is not the finished product, just a test run routine and vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgFsV_RZHNY

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Great job John. Looks like everyone was not only fooled, but entertained as well.

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Johncesta just watched all your videos, love them. Really great performances and I was laughing along with the audience. Keep up the great work Smile

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Hi John,

great job. I like very much the video.

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On 2009-06-27 23:56, johncesta wrote:
Just tonight I was putting a secret something together for an agent. Here's a quick piece using IMB. (This is not the finished product, just a test run routine and vid)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgFsV_RZHNY

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On 2009-06-26 11:32, Sven Rygh wrote:
Ruben

The IMB tecnology is a direct copy of the Buma, but as I don't use toys like that in my work, I have neither intension nor interest in continuing the discussinon.

My only message here was that I don't appreciate rip offs, and IBM is one.

Sven


Sven my friend (And I DO mean that.)

IMB is NOT a direct copy of buma.

Buma has some rather severe short comings, one has only to look at the sales video to get an idea of what I am talking about.

Both use the same "technology" but so what? Neither of the two men who promote either the board or the IMB have laid claim to being the inventor/creator of the gimmick.

As you have no intention or interest of continuing this discussion, one of which you started, I wonder why you decided to begin it it in the first place?

Hit and run has never been your style.

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On 2009-06-26 14:18, Domino Magic wrote:
Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.


Actually that's not 100% true.

While in Provo Utah in March, taking my son to the Mission Training Centre, I went to a Deseret Industries thrift store (An LDS equivilent of the Goodwill.)and did a bit of hunting around in the book section. On my way out I came accross a toy that had a large 8X11 screen.

I took it home, then seperated the screen from the toy. The intention was/is, to use it with a vinyl folder that I have, I currently use said folder as a carbon impression pad, and I wanted to up grade. The problem is two-fold. 1. The board is too large for the vinyl pad, even after triming as much of the edging as I dare; 2. I need to use a device to erase the writing as opposed to the method that is used with the IMB.

James, if you ever get the yen to do an IMB 2.0, I do have two suggestions:

1. incorporate it into an existing folio, something that is A4 in size. I could easily see this pad being used for Q&A type effects.

2. How about a smaller sized, A5, or smaller for 1-1 effects? This being used in connection with some center tear effects would be a worthy option to consider.

Domino;

The "doodle" pad guts in my toy, and those of the IMB are NOT the same, neither, for that matter, are any of the others on the market, due to the honeycombed design that keeps the magnetic bits in place.

I need a magnet to wipe away the impressions with the toy.

With the IMB you don't.

Domino; perhaps you'd care to either PM me or tell us here which toy you're referring to as this honeycomb design seems to be in all of what is commercially available.

$10.00?

I'd be interested in hearing where you've bought one.
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