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Admittedly, I have seen the required material in a number of toy shops while in the uk. Spent around $50 and got tons of the stuff. Use it for a million different things.

I have never seen it in the 'notes' frame, but I've seen it in other forms very cheap. Easy to cut out and adapt.
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If you are looking for a gimmick without the honeycomb desing you should look at the Universal Impression it uses the same technology as IMB but fits in a deck of cards, wallet, or small note pad. You can find it at http://www.papercranemagic.com it comes with a DVD 1 gimmick that lasts forever and a marker for only 49.95 if you know how the technology works then you can buy the gimmick for 24.95 and the marker for only 9.95
The honeycomb design will not work especially if you use it to reveal thought of words.
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Ted, how about peddling your wares in your own threads.
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Yes it's getting old, papercrane.
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Someone mentioned they idea of having a smaller version of IMB and I provided info on our AWESOME version of the close up Impression Device that you will use on a daily basis. We advertise with a banner here every month for ourwebsite http://www.papercranemagic.com and one of the ways we pay for our ad on the Café is to talk about our products here and maybe get sales from Café users. Even though we just finished making our second thousand batch of UI gimmicks many people in the age range of many mentalists do not know of our clever little impression device.I recommend james's product for stage and I recommend ours for close up everyday use.
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On 2009-06-28 08:43, Reuben Dunn wrote:
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On 2009-06-26 14:18, Domino Magic wrote:
Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.


Actually that's not 100% true.



Reuben,

Actually IT IS 100% true. I have seen the IMB and the boards that I have ARE the EXACT same thing. I've compared them side-by-side.

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On 2009-06-28 08:43, Reuben Dunn wrote:
Domino;

The "doodle" pad guts in my toy, and those of the IMB are NOT the same, neither, for that matter, are any of the others on the market, due to the honeycombed design that keeps the magnetic bits in place.

I need a magnet to wipe away the impressions with the toy.

With the IMB you don't.

Domino; perhaps you'd care to either PM me or tell us here which toy you're referring to as this honeycomb design seems to be in all of what is commercially available.

$10.00?

I'd be interested in hearing where you've bought one.


I don't know how much clearer I can make it. Again, what I have IS EXACTLY what the IMB is. It's not a magna doodle board and does not need a magnet to erase. Didn't you read my description in my previous post? It's the same thing.

James seems to be a generous guy, I'm sure he'll let you know where you can pick these up.

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On 2009-06-27 22:06, JamesBiss wrote:
Tee Hee!....

Anyone that suggests that the IMB, the world's most popular design duplication prop for stage, is just a $10 dollar "toy" or a "rip-off" of something else is sadly misinformed.


Well James, you're lying if you say you designed this board, because the product you sell exists in the same exact form as a $10 children's toy. I have two of them and again, I've seen the IMB and there is no difference.
(Tee Hee)

Same size
Holes drilled in one side
The word "Notes" on the opposite side
extremely thin
No need for a magnet to erase the writing/drawing

I understand the whole Buma/IMB debate and that's not what I'm trying to argue here. In fact I'm not trying to argue anything. I'm just stating that what he's selling isn't a prop designed from the bottom up to do what it does. James found a toy, put a routine with it and that's what you have. I never said you shouldn't use it. I was just backing up Sven's comment that this is indeed a toy. How you choose to use it is a different matter.
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On 2009-06-28 12:00, Domino Magic wrote:
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On 2009-06-28 08:43, Reuben Dunn wrote:
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On 2009-06-26 14:18, Domino Magic wrote:
Derek,

The IMB is actually a children's toy. James didn't "design" this. The board, as you get it from James is exactly what it is if you bought it in the store. The "Notes" on the opposite side is there and the holes that are drilled at the top is where a plastic yellow spiral used to be. That held the writing implement. Sells for about $10.


Actually that's not 100% true.



Reuben,

Actually IT IS 100% true. I have seen the IMB and the boards that I have ARE the EXACT same thing. I've compared them side-by-side.



Nope, not exactly the same thing.

Both use the so-called technology, but, unlike the Buma board,

One doesn't have to worry about reading the impression in reverse, hiding the so called "hot" area. Having compaired them "side-by-side" you of course knew that.

The IMB is not transparent, and has a much larger surface than that of the buma.

"exactly the same thing"?

Nope.

They both use the same "Technology" but in a different way.

I know of at least two others here in this fourm who currently market the same "technology" actively. I bought one a few years ago, it's small enough to fit in an envelope, a greeting card size one at that, however it does require that special something to remove the writing on it, but it's a good utility device.

Another is playing card size, I don't know much more about it, other than I just got a PM from the seller of it.

Domino, I don't see your hackles being raised at these two individuals who are using the same material as either the IMB or the hallowed Buma board.

I don't see the posts crying foul, rip off,etc.

(For that matter, I've not heard from Sven about these two products either.)

Why is that?

Where is the ire concerning wallets? Many have the same "technology" and do the same thing, some are cheaply made (Mind is home made.) others are sold for more than they're worth. Where are the threads on these copies of each other?

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On 2009-06-28 08:43, Reuben Dunn wrote:
Domino;

The "doodle" pad guts in my toy, and those of the IMB are NOT the same, neither, for that matter, are any of the others on the market, due to the honeycombed design that keeps the magnetic bits in place.

I need a magnet to wipe away the impressions with the toy.

With the IMB you don't.

Domino; perhaps you'd care to either PM me or tell us here which toy you're referring to as this honeycomb design seems to be in all of what is commercially available.

$10.00?

I'd be interested in hearing where you've bought one.


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I don't know how much clearer I can make it. Again, what I have IS EXACTLY what the IMB is. It's not a magna doodle board and does not need a magnet to erase. Didn't you read my description in my previous post? It's the same thing.

James seems to be a generous guy, I'm sure he'll let you know where you can pick these up.



But Domino, you made the statement that for $10.00 one could pick up a board from a toy store and have your own version of a buma/Imb.

How about telling us/me which brand you're talking about?

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On 2009-06-27 22:06, JamesBiss wrote:
Tee Hee!....

Anyone that suggests that the IMB, the world's most popular design duplication prop for stage, is just a $10 dollar "toy" or a "rip-off" of something else is sadly misinformed.


Well James, you're lying if you say you designed this board, because the product you sell exists in the same exact form as a $10 children's toy. I have two of them and again, I've seen the IMB and there is no difference.
(Tee Hee)

Same size
Holes drilled in one side
The word "Notes" on the opposite side
extremely thin
No need for a magnet to erase the writing/drawing

I understand the whole Buma/IMB debate and that's not what I'm trying to argue here. In fact I'm not trying to argue anything. I'm just stating that what he's selling isn't a prop designed from the bottom up to do what it does. James found a toy, put a routine with it and that's what you have. I never said you shouldn't use it. I was just backing up Sven's comment that this is indeed a toy. How you choose to use it is a different matter.


Come on Domino; give with the details.

What store is this prop being sold at?

What is the name of the toy?

Who manufactured/manufactures it?

I am, for some odd reason, reminded of what former Senator Joseph McCarthy was once quoted as saying that he had a list of 1000 card-carrying communists who were in government service. He claimed at one point to have had that list in his brief case. President Truman was of the opinion that the only thing that was in the briefcase was a bottle of booze; the Senator was a well known lover of the strong drink.

You know where, for $10.00 we can get the exact same board as the IMB. You now claim to own two of them.

You have, however not told us where said board can be obtained.

Simply put, put your claims to the test, and tell us where we can obtain these boards.

Can you?

Will you?
Good Thoughts.


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Reuben,

Here's the deal. The boards that I have - the $10 toys - and yes, they are marketed as toys ARE the exact same thing as the IMB. EXACT. I don't know why you don't get it. Didn't you read the description I gave? They are white boards, one side is hot and the hot side has a frame around the imp material. The opposite side, which looks like a white board has the NOTES printed on it. I have compared the IMB and the toy side-by-side and they are the same EXACT thing!!! I don't know how much clearer I can make it.

No, I am not going to tell you where to obtain these boards. If this routine is putting food on the table for some of you and you support James Biss, then WHY would you NOT buy a back up from him? I can tell you that they are (or were) imported from China through a toy company in Toronto. Even though I am not a fan of Biss, I'm an ethical guy and I'm not going to reveal the source of these. You're asking me to expose this to prove that I'm right. I know that I'm right because I've held the boards next to each other. We're not just talking about the material - we're talking about the exact prop as it is from Biss.

Reuben, what is your problem? Are you upset that you paid $60 for a $10 toy? Or do you feel like you've been taken, thinking this was engineered to be an IMP board when he just found a toy and put together a routine? Well don't be. If it's working for you - great! Not only did you get the board, you got the special marker, the clips and the routine.

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On 2009-06-29 07:22, Reuben Dunn wrote:

I am, for some odd reason, reminded of what former Senator Joseph McCarthy was once quoted as saying that he had a list of 1000 card-carrying communists who were in government service. He claimed at one point to have had that list in his brief case. President Truman was of the opinion that the only thing that was in the briefcase was a bottle of booze; the Senator was a well known lover of the strong drink.


Reuben - are you accusing me of drinking? Are you calling me a liar? You've really shown your true colors with that comment - no class.
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Biss also did the same with a sex toy. Made no modification just sold the toy as a thumper.
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Also The White Tagger is a common $20 office supply item that sells with routines for $145.
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Interesting.

Posted: Jun 30, 2009 2:35pm
So the conclusion is,

I f the time not is quite right at the moment to investing in overprized magic tricks , but you still want the wonderful creations of mr Biss;

-just visit your favorite Toys R Us!

..ahm..or the other toy shop.

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You cant get the stuff James is using at a toy store. You can get the junk honeycomb stuff but that stuff will not work. If you could get it at a toy store everybody would.
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I don't get it. I don't know how many times I have to say it. What I bought from an online toy retailer IS the exact thing Biss is selling. Why is that such a hard concept to grasp? There are several of them. One is all white, just like IMB. Another had letters around the frame of the hot side - letter diagrams like you would see in school teaching you how to write. It's NOT THE FREAKIN' HONEYCOMB that every insists it is. Jeez!
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On 2009-06-29 14:55, Domino Magic wrote:
Also The White Tagger is a common $20 office supply item that sells with routines for $145.


It's the idea to use the props and the creative routines. When you come up with some ideas let us know. We will certainly decide whether they are of value and possibly purchase them from you.

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Well do what Biss does steal others ideas.
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I didn't say if they were good or bad, just following up on a previous member's post about the thumper. Buy them, don't buy them. As I said about the IMB, if it's working for you, great! Although there have been many Biss fans PM'ing me asking for sources. I'll say what I said previously - I'm an ethical guy and I'm not going to. Just because I don't care for his material, doesn't mean I'm going to expose it for everyone else.

And by the way, the gimmicks (not the IMB) are openly discussed in his latest book, so buy it and find out for yourselves.
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A few index cards and some coin envelopes costs about 75 cents in a stationery store, and in the right hands a skilled performer can perform an evenings show with these few items.

Now the real question becomes, What's that kind of information worth to you ?


A working Pro will tell you that it's priceless, however others will tell you that it's 75 cents worth of paper.

Which are you ?

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On 2009-06-30 18:58, Domino Magic wrote:
I didn't say if they were good or bad, just following up on a previous member's post about the thumper. Buy them, don't buy them. As I said about the IMB, if it's working for you, great! Although there have been many Biss fans PM'ing me asking for sources. I'll say what I said previously - I'm an ethical guy and I'm not going to. Just because I don't care for his material, doesn't mean I'm going to expose it for everyone else.

And by the way, the gimmicks (not the IMB) are openly discussed in his latest book, so buy it and find out for yourselves.


But its not his material they are commercially available in the shops. So why not share? Its just as ethical to share a source as it is to find one and sell it at inflated prices to another market. Afterall if the value is in the routines and not the commercially available product where is the problem?

Its akin to sharing where you buy good C****n P***r.
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Yes you can buy james's stuff online. I have before when we were testing out material to compare with universal impression. Buying online is not the same as going to a local toy store and taking it out if the toy to use.
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