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Jamie D
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Very well done Sven. I really like the routine with the spoons.
Again well done. Smile

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On 2009-07-04 21:32, mindpunisher wrote:
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On 2009-07-04 09:23, Dynamike wrote:
Quit acting like a baby and thinking about toys. When you grow up, you will get a job working with the IMB.


$10 for a gelboard or $69 for IMB? When they are both the same thing?

Stop thinking like a complete idiot!!!!

I can picture you buying the statue of liberty. (by the way I could give you a good deal)



Just wondering.....how much would you pay for a BUMA board?

Or is your scorn selective too?
Good Thoughts.


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Why would I need a Buma board? A Gelboard does the same thing. I paid £150 for that wreck of a product Kopy Kat. Which fell apart within weeks. I now can source the magnetic film for about £4 a sheet and make something more natural with ease.

that's a difference of £146. To be honest the routines that came with it weren't that great. Worth about £8 maybe.

You also seem to be overlooking a few things. Why would you buy from or support someone who tells you blatant lies? Andtreats you like an idiot? If the routines are worth the price of the package then the knowledge of the GELBOARD shouldn't affect sales right?
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On 2009-07-06 05:40, mindpunisher wrote:
Why would you buy from or support someone who tells you blatant lies? And treats you like an idiot?

Oh, now I see, this was all about a misunderstanding. We never brought anything from you before, dude.
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Interesting topic!

I can see both sides of this, however aside from the Impressionable Mind Board, I am not familiar with James Biss' material. I've been doing mentalism for a long time and very rarely buy anything new.

I was familiar with the toy in question before James released the mind board. More than familiar, I own several of them. I was interested in the magnetic gel material for a drawing duplication routine. I purchased several commercially available routines to see what was available. Ultimately I did by the Impressionable Mind Board a couple of years after I had purchased the toy. Honestly I laughed when I saw what it was, considering I had several of them. I've since sold it and it's been a while since I looked at the routine, but for me the routine wasn't worth the price. (Notice that I said for me).

What I remember about it is that it was a 3 phase routine - the first part being psychological forces, the second part being a real-time drawing duplication with a spectator and the third revelation being the result of pre-show work.

This didn't work for me because I already have an extensive psychological forces presentation at the beginning of my show that has been a solid part of my opening for years now. The second phase was fine, but the third phase with pre-show was out.

I don't do anything with pre-show. It's just the way I prefer to work. I have a consistent show, meaning that no matter what the circumstances I can always do the exact show I want to - surrounded, up close, stage, no stage or walking in at the last moment.

However from another perspective I can see why some of you would be excited about this. Had you never seen the board before or were familiar with the principles involved with this routine, it would be powerful for you.

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On 2009-06-26 11:32, Sven Rygh wrote:
...but as I don't use toys like that in my work...


And that's ultimately the direction I took for the current drawing duplication routine that I use. While there are some very clever props out there, I tend to stick with the classics and work with materials that can be purchased at any office supply store.

Obviously what works for me isn't going to work for everyone. I'm a professional mentalist and I'm not opposed to using playing cards or presenting a magic trick in my act. That may be a big faux pas for many of you.
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I have no idea what you're saying Sven (I even asked our houskeeper Inge if she knew, Inge's from Holland, but she didn't know either!) but you look darn good saying it all!!

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On 2009-07-06 05:40, mindpunisher wrote:
I paid £150 for that wreck of a product Kopy Kat. Which fell apart within weeks.

I understand you punishing your own mind about what props not to buy, but you mistreat your props too? To be honest I believe it is wrong. But no problem, it is your choice, just like it is our choice to purchase what we want to.
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Of course purchase what you want to. From who you want to no matter what their ethics are.

I love people like you Dynamo...

You make me smile for all the wrong reasons. But that's what keeps me on here.
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On 2009-07-06 09:50, mindpunisher wrote:
Of course purchase what you want to. From who you want to no matter what their ethics are.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty we are free at last!
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On 2009-07-06 09:02, johncesta wrote:
I have no idea what you're saying Sven

Shhh...it's a secret! Smile

Give my regards to Inge, and tell her that it is even more difficult for Norwegians to understand the Dutch than for the Dutch to understand Norwegians!

Sven

PS Thanks a lot, BTW!
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On 2009-07-06 10:07, Dynamike wrote:
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On 2009-07-06 09:50, mindpunisher wrote:
Of course purchase what you want to. From who you want to no matter what their ethics are.

Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty we are free at last!


Nothings free in this world! Especially a free lunch.
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Well I'm moving to a different world.
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On 2009-07-02 17:16, mindpunisher wrote:
Yep Biss really respects the intellegence of his customers. I can't believe they still support him when he treats them like idiots.


http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......rum=82#0

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On 2009-07-06 05:40, mindpunisher wrote:
...I paid £150 for that wreck of a product Kopy Kat. Which fell apart within weeks. I now can source the magnetic film for about £4 a sheet and make something more natural with ease.

that's a difference of £146. To be honest the routines that came with it weren't that great. Worth about £8 maybe...


You paid for the idea, the creation of a concept, the R & D, the routines, etc etc not just the materials.

Remember the fantastic 'Invisible Assistant' imp device. You could make this for pennies but it got great reviews and no-one complained about the price.

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Amen to that, Derek.
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On 2009-07-07 07:36, kinesis wrote:
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On 2009-07-06 05:40, mindpunisher wrote:
...I paid £150 for that wreck of a product Kopy Kat. Which fell apart within weeks. I now can source the magnetic film for about £4 a sheet and make something more natural with ease.

that's a difference of £146. To be honest the routines that came with it weren't that great. Worth about £8 maybe...


You paid for the idea, the creation of a concept, the R & D, the routines, etc etc not just the materials.

Remember the fantastic 'Invisible Assistant' imp device. You could make this for pennies but it got great reviews and no-one complained about the price.

Derek


Actually Derek it got awful reviews a few weeks after when it fell apart. The ideas and routines were worth about £8 were less than average. Why not just tell us where to get the film and sell an e-book? That is only way you could justify the R&D.

The product was flawed it fell apart at the spine after a few weeks. It was over way over priced. Even if it had fantastic reviews I thought it was ****. It fell apart. Any other industry I would've got my money back.

When I see a good product I rave about it. When its **** I rave about it. However in this quaint little world of mentalism it seems its a crime to tell the truth.
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I heard they can not fall apart on their own. So what did you do to it to make it fall apart?
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Mike:

That is not fair.

Anything that is assembled stands the chance of coming apart.

Although I have not had a problem with my IMB, I have had issues with other products and those experiences have poisoned me from wanting to purchase anything else from those manufacturers. Even though most everyone else has nothing but good things to say about them. There is almost nothing worse than going to use something and getting ready to hand it out and finding that it is falling apart or has fallen apart. The only thing worse is having it do so in the spectators’ hands.

So although I don’t share MPs experience with the IMB, I share it with other items (from other manufacturers) and can completely understand and empathize with his feelings.

Tony
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Mindpunisher, please disregard my previous post. I take back what I said. To be honest, Tony knows a lot more than I do. Tony is also the one who advised me to get the IMB a few years ago.
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"Remember the fantastic 'Invisible Assistant' imp device. You could make this for pennies but it got great reviews and no-one complained about the price."

Derek
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I did. And I'm still grousing about that piece o' carp. It was the one overpriced overhyped thing that made me realize that underpricing a good thing is much better than overpricing an old almost useless idea. It is the single reason I priced the Brazen Blindfold setup at $25 instead of $75 ('to keep it out of the hands of the merely curious'). At $75 it certainly might have been a bargain to anyone who used it, but a rip off to anyone who was getting it to study the field.

Like I mentioned, $60 for IA put me off of anything Skink (or whatever his name was) ever would put out...

Sorry for the inturrupt, but even mentioning IA gets me riled.
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I don't think MP was referring to the IMB falling apart. Was he? He mentioned it was 150 lbs (I can't make that little lb symbol)

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