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lithyem Veteran user San Diego, CA 306 Posts |
@marshalldoll - are you looking for a 3fly effect that uses magnets in the routine or simply a set of morgans that are magnetic for other reasons like a holdout or ditching. You can get morgans that are magnetically attracted OR ones that have magnets in them. I'm pretty sure that Tango makes both, I know Kreis makes some also. If you look for a thread in this forum for gaff coin makers you will find some custom makers that can all do magnetic Morgans.
I'm not sure of a 3fly effect based on magnetics. Maybe look into Johnny Wong coin sets Dream Coin and Super Triple Coin - but I'm not certain. |
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marshalldoll Special user 554 Posts |
Lithyem
I am looking for 3 fly using magnetic properties much like the Wong's Super Triple. I don't know if anyone makes them. My son asked me so I am searching. |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
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On 2009-07-04 14:57, marshalldoll wrote: Probably quickest to contact the two "big" names and ask them about triple nesting magnetic sliding sets. They both offer regular magnetic nesting sets and also make shimmed sliders.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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daveboldt New user Dallas 22 Posts |
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On 2009-07-04 09:56, MortenN wrote: I meant are they basically the same gimmick? |
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
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On 2009-07-04 22:39, daveboldt wrote: No, not at all! MMc |
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
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On 2009-07-03 20:51, mrmagik68 wrote: I should have been more clear. The coins used in CFWM require some distance from the spectator in order to conceal the nature of the coins. When I say it's not a close up effect, I mean that I like to have at least four to five feet between me and the audience. It's not that you need to be in a parlour setting, but you need more distance than a lot of close up coin effects to ensure that everything looks natural. I use the Morgan set. I have seen the half dollar set and played with it a little bit. I don't know which set you bought Roberto, but think the issues would be the same with both. I hope this helps. It's just an opinion, but it was suggested to me by David Neighbors, and I think it is worth consideration. Cheers, Sammy
Sammy J. Teague
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
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On 2009-07-04 21:40, Jonathan Townsend wrote: Interesting thought, Jonathan. Talk about a pure ultimate gaff approach! No bringing of the hands together. I'm trying to imagine how to manage the sets! I'm also wondering about how to show three separate coins at the end of the routine. Fun to think about!
Sammy J. Teague
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4911 Posts |
As I told Sammy If I am going to do a Close-up coins across That's A walk around no table one I would want to do it into the sp. Hand! I have allways thought holding them at the fingertip was so a biger grope of people could see the coins!
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts |
Sammy J., just add one regular coin to that mix.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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mrmagik68 Special user NYC 574 Posts |
Oh! Oh! I purchased CFWM for the sole purpose of performing it up close, not a few feet away from my spectators. I heard so much praise about the quality of the coins that I automatically assumed the coins were good enough to withstand relatively close scrutiny. I purchased the set with Morgan Dollars. Well, we'll see. I should be getting my set in a few days.
Roberto
Original Card Clinician
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KOTAH Inner circle 2290 Posts |
Just a fantasy thought, but a coin roll would be very visual method, with each coin ending displayed trapped between the fingers. HOW this might be accomplished eludes me.
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
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On 2009-07-05 12:15, mrmagik68 wrote: Roberto, no worries. Once you are comfortable performing this routine you will be able to discover the distance that works for you. Relatively close scrutiny is certainly possible. All I am doing is explaining the distance that I think is best. You will figure out what works for you. If you need any advice, once you get your coins, feel free to PM me. For me, the last move was the most difficult to master. Mark Mason thought I was nuts for taking so long to learn it. Sammy
Sammy J. Teague
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lithyem Veteran user San Diego, CA 306 Posts |
I just got a Morgan set of "come fly with me"... the coins out of the box need some real work to clean up. They are coated in some strange sticky substance - making them not want to slide against each other and fouling the teflon. Oh this is odd but they STINK.. as in they smell horrible! The sticky crap and stink I can clean up but I'm not blown away by the workmanship I have to say. I'm not sure how much detail I can go into here so I'll be vague but the edges of the coins are very sloppy in my opinion. Anyone else share this sentiment?
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MickeyPainless Inner circle California 6065 Posts |
That does sound strange and was not at all my experience! My set was top shelf right out of the box! I looked through at least 20 sets before choosing mine and they were ALL of the highest quality!
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lithyem Veteran user San Diego, CA 306 Posts |
Mickey I'll PM you and discuss further...
In other news the coins cleaned up easily with some SimpleGreen. |
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
Could the stickiness be due to the plastic coin holders? Maybe they got really hot? Of course that would have probably warped the DVD. Given the nature of the edges I prefer to perform from some distance (discussed earlier). I have had two sets and can't say that the edges looked sloppy on either set.
If you aren't happy with them, contact Mark Mason. He will most definately make things right. Sammy
Sammy J. Teague
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rizyanrizy New user 58 Posts |
I saw it on magicgeek, it was awesome, I wonder how...
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Gahrsim New user Nantes, France 10 Posts |
I only have one thing to say: I purchased a sliding shell set about 2 years ago and I've had some fun performing with it...but in the end what I do perform on a regular basis is a much more logical and practical 3fly (from Gary Kurtz actually). That is not to say CFWM or others U3F can't be great routines, but I just get the feeling people are expecting you won't have to put too much work to have a "miracle" because of the highly gimmicked nature of the set. I turns out to be wrong.
I was probably a bit like that when I purchased my set. We all do the same mistakes... So I'll second what has been said by much more competent magicians than myself here (I'm thinking of Michael Rubinstein among others), just buy some books and DVD's and get to work with a simple s***l and 3 coins, or 4 regular coins. Eventually you will get a strong routine you will do your whole life and it will be much more rewarding. And of course, all of this is just my humble opinion... Guillaume |
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lithyem Veteran user San Diego, CA 306 Posts |
Guillaume that's a good recommendation for sure.
My preference has always been for sleight-based effects then a knockout with an unexpected gaff. I can do a solid 1-coin routine (which could be don with a regular coin) all the while using a 3CM - and at the point when it's least expected produce another coin allllmost confirming that I was using 2 coins. Than guess what I can show a 3rd that I "keep hidden just for times like this". I can make the 3rd coin dissolve, the second vanish with a snap and the first coin vanish with a puff of air - take a bow and I'm completely clean. If you are adept with ungaffed coins you can devastate with gaffs. On the flip side I think if you start using gaffs too early on you will never realize the potential of the hardware... just my thoughts Michael |
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mrmagik68 Special user NYC 574 Posts |
Guillaume/Michael,
Very good advice gentlemen. Café members here rock! Roberto
Original Card Clinician
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