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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
Actually Jonathan...zero. I have had this mental block about their size, so haven't performed with them. I guess I will just have to give it a go. I have been studying a shell coin across this Summer, and still haven't been comfortable with it. I've been working on the one David Roth teaches, and one David Neighbors taught me. I have a set of Victorian pennies, which are my favorite for this routine. I have only performed the routine for my wife (poor lady). She seemed to like it, but I'm still not comfortable performing it. I still have an issue with "Why would you repeat the same effect four times in a row?"
Sammy
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Colonel Clark Regular user Mesa, AZ 127 Posts |
This thread seems to be recognizing that most muggles do not carry silver dollars and half dollars in their pockets.... so quarters are more familiar and easier to accept. That said, if you don't/can't use quarters, then maybe you should consider "British Coppers" or "Victorian Pennies" and enjoy the fun of creating a story line that intrigues the laymen with tales of yore. Check out Hoffman's More Magic, under Multiplying Coins and tricks therewith, or Richard Buffums; "Penny Whimsey."
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
Sammy, I'm with you about "repeating that effect four times..." and heard that from none less than Sol Stone long ago when starting serious work on the Coins Across plot. Once you can establish a purpose (however fanciful or frivolous) for using magic to get the coins from place to place you have part of the groundwork for a presentation. Even something so small as "how does a magician put coins into a piggybank?" could get the script writing started. The funny thing about that approach is you drop the coins in rather than fuss with them between transits and could wind up pouring out a silver dollar after the four quarters travel. Such things are up to you as you explore themes.
The fun of using quarters is that you can appear to borrow the props from the audience and so make the magic special for them and those they later show the coins the magician borrowed and ... Getting fussy with one's precious coin collection can work for audiences after they buy into your character and decide they want to enjoy what you wish to show. Without that start of engagement and rapport you may wind up doing a halfhearted impression of Cartman's Tea Party from South Park. I agree the two tricks in Hoffmann's More Magic using the gaff(s) are well worth exploring.
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
Why Repete it 3 or 4 time Layman all ways say DO It Agen!
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andykean Special user U.K - Now living in New Zealand Auckland 939 Posts |
If you want some great material check out Flight Plans by David Neighbours.
So many useful ideas & routines in such a compact volume! |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2009-08-14 23:10, David Neighbors wrote: That's a place where "one ahead" is useful - as is using a borrowed coin so you have all that action to return a coin and then get a new one to get reset where needed.
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
Heh heh...you guys are brilliant! Jonathan, I've put a LOT of thinking into my performance, and you got me to think WHY. Why is the coin (insert favorite effect), and what path does it take to (get there, change, vanish, etc). If magic doesn't make sense to lay people, it becomes a puzzle.
I like stories, and I've noticed that the best magic tells a story... Thanks Jon! Doug |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On 2009-08-14 23:19, andykean wrote: Looked for it on his site, not there, that I could find...his book on Coin Box Magic is superb! Some pretty exclusive stuff. It would be great to see him perform. Flight Plans by David Neighbours, is one to keep an eye out for, for sure! Doug |
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Tony Thomas Inner circle North Carolina 1248 Posts |
Okay - I'm making progress. Like most things it is hard to just put your toe in. I started this thread asking which I should go with, flipper or [. But now I have both. I have a Kennedy Half [, and a Tango Kennedy Half Pro Flipper.
I have also purchased Troy Hooser's Total Destruction 1 DVD, which I recommend highly. You need a [ and flipper to do all the routines on this DVD. I have learned the ExTROYdinary Routine, which is a coins across of sorts with a [ (great routine). I will next learn the Coins To Glass routine with a flipper. I'll work on the routines in this DVD until I can perform them well with Half's. Assuming I'm good with the Half's, next year I'll purchase a percision made gaffed Morgan [ Set & Flipper, probably from Schoolcraft. Thanks for all the good insights guys... |
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magiclimber Veteran user Boulder, Colorado 315 Posts |
Sammy:
Mendoza uses silver dollars. I guess this supports your theory (which I agree with) that smaller shells are more noticeable. However, I prefer using half dollars, because they are more common and I feel as though the spectator can relate to them better than dollars. Plus I find them easier to handle. |
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
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On 2009-08-15 18:45, magiclimber wrote: Hi magiclimber, welcome to the Café! I think I agree with your opinion that halves are easier to handle, but I must admit that I am intrigued with the idea of using borrowed quarters. What could be more powerful than using spectators coins? My quarter set is silver, so I may invest in a clad shell and play around with it. If you would like, you could join us on Saturdays at the Perkins restaurant just south of I-25 and Colorado Blvd. in Denver. A bunch of magicians hang out there. Sammy
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magiclimber Veteran user Boulder, Colorado 315 Posts |
Sammy,
Borrowing quarters would be nice, I guess a close substitute would be to toss each coin out for examination, while holding out the shell. Still, obviously not as strong as borrowed, I agree. Thanks for the welcome, I'm new to Boulder as well, I moved here 6 days ago. I would be interested in joining you all and I appreciate the invite. I'll have to see what kind of time my school schedule allows me (I'll be working on my Ph.D in civil engineering). Good to meet you. |
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Sammy J. Inner circle Castle Rock, Colorado 1786 Posts |
OK, I admit that the PHD is probably more important than the luncheon. We meet at around 12:30 every Saturday. Anyone interested in joining us, even if just visiting the Denver area, is more than welcome. Just enter the restaurant and ask where the magicians are. The staff all know! David Neighbors is there pretty much every Saturday, in case you are into coin magic (or any magic for that matter)!
Sammy
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
HI Doug,
Sorry Man I have just never got around To geting Fight Plans Up on the web site! But it's $ 20.00 And $ 7.00 Postage in the U.S.A. If you would like it you can Paypal me At Coinjurer@comcast.net ! Ok Thanks so much! |
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andykean Special user U.K - Now living in New Zealand Auckland 939 Posts |
Well worth it you ask me!
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magiclimber Veteran user Boulder, Colorado 315 Posts |
Well at this point in my life magic might be more important, just don't tell that to my girlfriend or my parents. LOL!
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
Hi magiclimber,
Sure Man Mum's the word! But any sat. You could make wood be great! |
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Dougini Inner circle The Beautiful State Of Maine 7130 Posts |
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On 2009-08-15 23:30, David Neighbors wrote: Thank YOU Dave! When I get myself situated (moving again!), I'll do dat! Doug |
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David Neighbors V.I.P. 4910 Posts |
Hi Doug,
Your WECOME! I will look forward to it! |
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DP the Great Regular user CC, Texas 198 Posts |
The first coin gaff I bought was a shell and instantly I became addicted. I came up with many routines were I would bring it in at some point for one move just to sell the point further. One of the best routines with a shell in my opinion is coin through table using a clear glass so you can actually see 3 coins becomeing 2. its sick and I have had huge amounts of success with that and others.
But then again it was a production shell and not a high qualitiy like lasson so it is failing and as they years have gone by I have used it less and less. Definalty something I wan tto invest soon when I have the cash: a quality shell, ause I know I will use it a lot! -DP
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