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AnDraíodóir
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Hey guys,

Recently I've been doing a routine with the BCS, whereby I divine the person's card through reading their pulse. However, I've noticed that on some occasions I've found that their pulse is actually a huge tell. Now there's a possibility that their pulse is speeding up because I'm slowly getting closer to their card, however, I've come across certain scenarios where their pulse picks up rapidly when I begin to say it's suit out loud or even if it's a picture or number card. Such as tonight, when I said the suit of a guy's card aloud, his pulse literally started pounding, and actually picked up even more the further the effect went/closer I got. It was as much as a surprise to me as it was to him.

So, my question is, have you guys ever experienced a situation whereby your false methods could indeed have been your true methods? I find such occurances much like practicing the classic force, whereby you slowly get a feel for what you're doing, and even if you miss, you've a back up plan.

Phil
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Probably it has to do with Contact Mindreading (ideomotor response)
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I did a similar revelation where I started saying the names of card values and watched intently at a spectator's face. 4/5 spectators I may have been able to actually read because when I named their card they either stopped smiling or stopped moving their eyes.

Could of been luck though.

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Approaches like this are actually pretty common. Look at Barrie Richardson's work for an example where contact minding reading isn't even mentioned in the blurb.

There are a few situations when you need to be wary, though. These sorts of things are becoming more and more common at team building seminars by people who buy in a little too much into the whole "Blink", "Tipping Point" worldview ("trusting your intuition, blah blah blah"). Think of a finger, I'll tell you which one. Put this in an envelope, I'll tell you which one.

I was a bit upset when I first heard about it but less so when I saw it in practice. It was like a youtube video where somebody who doesn't understand a trick is trying to explain it, anybody it hurts shouldn't be performing this type of stuff anyway.
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I've noticed it and I usually rely on it so much so that it is very rare that I use a forced card. I find that it works stronger on women than men.

I also remember one time when I used it and ...omg...I couldn't find a pulse. To which I made a small vampire remark which caused some laughter and brought the pulse a bit moe stronger. The somewhat ironic part of that was I was still living in New Orleans at the time and the Anne rice novels were all the rage.
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On 2009-07-09 22:35, AnDraíodóir wrote:
Hey guys,

Recently I've been doing a routine with the BCS, whereby I divine the person's card through reading their pulse. However, I've noticed that on some occasions I've found that their pulse is actually a huge tell. Now there's a possibility that their pulse is speeding up because I'm slowly getting closer to their card, however, I've come across certain scenarios where their pulse picks up rapidly when I begin to say it's suit out loud or even if it's a picture or number card. Such as tonight, when I said the suit of a guy's card aloud, his pulse literally started pounding, and actually picked up even more the further the effect went/closer I got. It was as much as a surprise to me as it was to him.

So, my question is, have you guys ever experienced a situation whereby your false methods could indeed have been your true methods? I find such occurances much like practicing the classic force, whereby you slowly get a feel for what you're doing, and even if you miss, you've a back up plan.

Phil


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AnDraíodóir
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Cheers Slim!

In the short time since I posted this thread I've been trying out the principle further, and in some cases I actually merely get people to think of the card, no force and have a direct hit about three out of five people. Usually the rest I'm either off by the suit or off by one or two cards. I've found that taking a person's pulse not only gives you a huge amount of information, it's great cover for looking concentrated on just their pulse alone but still getting a tonne of information from their facial expressions and body language in my peripheral vision. It's definitely something I'll be doing from now on.

I'm definitely only scratching the surface!
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