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mrmagik68 Special user NYC 575 Posts |
Hello all,
After a long hiatus away from magic I'm now starting to learn Homer Liwag's CoinOne routine. The move I'm having a bit of a problem with is the Flash Back Production. It looks like pure magic in Homer's hands. I seem to be getting the hang of it when I produce the second coin, with one coin already on my outstretched fingers. But when I try to produce the third coin while holding two coins in my hand, I can't seem to do the move well. I'm thinking it has something to do with the weight of the two visible coins. I'm using Morgans but also tried it with Kennedys as well. Do you guys have any suggestions on how to best acquire this move. I know it's definitely one of those moves you have to keep at it which I intend to do. Just wondering if anyone has a "best practice" on this move. Many thanks! Roberto
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
68, you know the best answer already, it's simply "Practice." There is no silver bullet in making the move happen. Actually what it takes moreso than not is better understanding by your hands of what you want/need them to do. The more you practice the steps of the move the more you will improve it. This happens with most unique moves and sleights. The more you do it, the better you get at it. The principle never changes and of course practicing it correctly is imperative as well.
I can remember this and other moves that just didn't click for me initially but with good study and effort, they all came good enough. This will come for you too and the door will open when you truly get there. I just tried this move again as per your post here and I don't do Coin-One all that much if at all but I did endeavor to learn it when it first came out and got it down then...So I just tried that particular move for the first time in a long time (and a beauty it is too) and BAM! it happened but I can remember when it didn't happen so easily. Perseverance makes it happen consistently and then from there pretty much forever. Keep working man!
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mrmagik68 Special user NYC 575 Posts |
Mb,
Very well put, and quite inspiring. I will definitely keep working at it and I'm sure it'll come through for me. Thanks! Roberto
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Griff Loyal user Florida 285 Posts |
Hey mrmagik68, yeah MB said it well...practice will get you there, BUT you have to practice the move correctly. Nothing worse than practicing a move over and over only to learn later that you haven't been doing it correctly to begin with. I suggest that you watch that portion of the DVD several times and make sure that you are doing every detail correctly. For me the trick to this move is a very quick downward movement of the hand (very little if any upward movement). There will come a time when you can do it very quickly and with very little movement of the hand.
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mrmagik68 Special user NYC 575 Posts |
Mb/Griff,
It's coming along! I've been at this move like white on rice! I can get the move now about 6 out of 10 times, so it's coming along. I find it's more difficult when you're holding two coins on the fingers and then produce the third coin. But it's a fun move and looks really cool when done well. Griff, you're right dude, the trick is getting a nice, sharp twitch-like downward movement. It looks like the new coin just popped out of nowhwere. Okay, back to practice, thanks guys! Roberto
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think New user 25 Posts |
How angle sensitive has this routine been for people that are using it? Particularly with dollar sized coins.
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Griff Loyal user Florida 285 Posts |
I do use this routine. I love it. But...I rarely use silver dollars with this one. Although the move is easier with the heavier coins (for me), the angles can be a problem. I asked Homer himself here on the forums awhile back whether he used halves for this routine ever, and he said he uses them most of the time due to the angles. That was enough for me...started practicing with halves and can do this for larger groups now. I have used my Morgans for real people that are standing very close in walk around situations and it works well for that. But if you want to do this routine anytime (almost), use halves.
One good tip... If you want to get this down with dollar size coins, practice with halves. If you want to get it down using halves, practice the move with quarters. If you can do it almost reliabily with quarters, you've got it down. I've tried it with nickels and dimes for kicks and now there is about 55 cents somewhere in my couch... |
mrmagik68 Special user NYC 575 Posts |
Think,
That's a great question, I was going to post that same question on this thread. I started practicing this routine with Morgans. I liked the way the effect looked on the video with Morgans and lately I've become enamoured with Morgan dollars. I've also practiced at times with Kennedys but still prefer the Morgans. Now, about the angle problems with the Morgans, are you guys saying that the problem is from the angle on the deep back clip? Is it because using a larger coin allows the coin to protrude further out than a half dollar? I thought this routine was purposely for when your spectators are close, right in front of you, looking down at your hands. If this is the case, does it matter if you're using silver dollars of halves? Oh, and one other thing. I drop my coins so much practicing this routine. To the point where I can't really practice so much while I'm at work. Does anyone else have this problem with dropping the coins? Thanks, Roberto
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think New user 25 Posts |
Thanks guys for your experience with the routine.
I've completely moved away from using half dollars in my work because I love how visual the dollar sized coins look. I'm going to try table hopping this routine with the tip Homer gives on the DVD regarding putting your fingertips on the edge of the table. I guess worst case scenario I go back to halves but they feel like nickels in my hands nowadays, lol. mrmagik68, I don't drop the coins practicing this routine for some reason (as opposed to say the Hitman routine by Rune Klan). But I usually keep a pillow underneath just in case. |
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