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Allan Bright
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Hello,

I am considering buying either Kenner's or Wilson's version of 3 Fly. I have seen individual post on those effects but I was wondering which one I should get.
It is hard to decide when I haven't see any of them live.

Your help is appreciated.

Allan
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Allan stay away from Wilson 3fly !
I don't know the Kenner's gimmicked coin but I know the Wilson...
I think Bob Kohler should soon release his U3F2, perhaps you should waiting for it.
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On 2009-08-26 17:28, parmenion wrote:
Allan stay away from Wilson 3fly !


Why do you suggest that? Some magicians recommend U3F because you can let the coins be examined. I like U3F because you just have one gaff to worry about.
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I own both U3F and SuperFly. With both sets the coins may be examined.
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Stubeck, what's your favorite between U3F and Superfly then ? Maybe, I should wait for U3F2...
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They are both good and you will be happy (as I am) with either set. There is a sequence/phase in U3F that I love to say and do which cannot be done with SuperFly. But the gimmick in SuperFly allows me to get in and out of the routine easier than U3F and the gimmick can be used in other routines (SuperFly). I purchased U3F when it first came out so Im more comfortable with it, and have owned SuperFly for a little over a week or so, so it hasn't seen a live audience. So...they're both great, you'd be happy with either set but I haven't enough non-mirror performances with SuperFly to make an honest call. I do, however, believe that once polished it'll be a difficult call. I like them both for different reasons.
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I definitely prefer U3F over R Paul Wilson's TheFly; SuperFly seems way too expensive and hate to be disappointed as I was with TheFly
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First off, Super Fly has become my all time favorite magic trick.

However, I recently purchased R Paul Wilson's "The Fly" directly from Joe Porper. I'm quite pleased with all aspects of the coin set and routines. Three Fly (various versions) has long been my favorite coin routine to perform, even though in paid performances I use a 1-coin routine and a version of Roth's shell coins across as the workhorses of my walkaround sets. Three Fly will probably always be my favorite (albeit not most performed) coin trick to play with and perform so I simply had to add Wilson's "The Fly" to my repertoire.

The engineering and principles behind the coin set are amazing. Paul Wilson is brilliant and he's always been one of my favorite magicians. Joe Porper's workmanship is of course top notch. I'd say that if one were going to limit oneself to a SINGLE Three Fly routine, then I don't think that the majority of magicians would be pleased to use "The Fly" as their ONLY routine; simply because having a standard Three Fly routine with regular ungaffed coins, such as Kenner's original routine or Wilson's "Crowded Coins," or Kohler's gaffed coin version (U3F), allows for a more free handling of the coins (including an audible component of real coins clinking at one or more instances during the routine). However, if one is willing to learn more than one version of Three Fly, then adding Wilson's gaffed set provides some visually stunning moments that aren't possible with any other set of coins/routines that I've seen. The moves aren't difficult with "The Fly" routine that is well taught on the DVD, but there are a couple of moves that will take me a bit more practice to get down, especially since my sense of timing is always something I'm working on.

I hope this helps out with anybody who is trying to decide if "The Fly" is for them.

Cheers,
MJ
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I still do the old-school, non-gaffed version from Totally Out of Control. It gets the same reaction as any of the others when done well.
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On 2010-03-06 11:41, bsears wrote:
I still do the old-school, non-gaffed version from Totally Out of Control. It gets the same reaction as any of the others when done well.


Key phrase: "...when done well." That's why I still use gaffs! Smile
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See R. Paul do it at http://www.petebiro.com
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On 2010-03-06 18:39, Pete Biro wrote:
See R. Paul do it at http://www.petebiro.com


thanks for sharing the video Pete. I'm in the air on whether this version is for me particularly since I already own both superfly and U3F already. something to ponder....
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