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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
Most of the time I am required to wear a suit and tie when I perform. And quite frankly, it sucks. I didn't become a performer just to dress up like some corporate schmuck...or some middle aged dad.
Chris Angel dresses like a rock star with his ripped jeans and long hair. David Blaine dresses down and casual. For the public, they are the two most recognized names in magic. In fact, they symbolize magic.... So why do we continue to tighten our ties and tuck in our shirts like good little school boys on our way to Sunday mass. Frankly, I'm sick of it. I'm going to start dressing like a performer; stylish, unique, and apart from all the rest. Now...where the hell do I start? |
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Father Photius Grammar Host El Paso, TX (Formerly Amarillo) 17161 Posts |
Goodwill comes to mind.
"Now here's the man with the 25 cent hands, that two bit magician..."
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JNeal Inner circle I used to have 999 posts, now I have 1616 Posts |
I'm going to start dressing like a performer; stylish, unique, and apart from all the rest.
Now...where the hell do I start? Given the number of Rock, Grunge, Goth, and Gangsta' magicians who have piercings, torn jeans, and t-shirts... if I wanted to be unique, stylish and different from the rest... I'd wear a suit. LOL! PS. I wanna' be different... just like everyone else!
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Dr. Solar Special user Citrus Heights, Ca. 526 Posts |
Sadly Vernon,
Corporate shmucks andmiddle ages dads they too have mainly dropped the suits and run amuck trying to " look like a rock star" with Levis at best and or otherwise ripped knees, having never seen hard labor crawing around patching cement, laying carpet, floors, working in sewers etc. but what the hey, Bruce Springstein wears them. Like it was just said above, perhaps the suit would be a difference. I'm coming from a place where in the late fifties 70% of the work force wore suits and us, those coming from the Beat Generation denounced Brooks Bros. suits and all as robots without substance. Who would have thought by now those of the same cloth are all wearing our "colors". Yeah, the Rat Pack is gone and look what we got in Vegas, everybody running around, playing the tables, taking in the shows dressed like it was KMarts blue light special on sweat pants. There is a new time a new way to think " outside the box". Doc
"look for me in all things forgotten"
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ElectricBlue New user 90 Posts |
The difference is in what kind of suit you wear. Think James Bond rather than office suit and I think you will find there is a large difference.
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
Great insights....
And you are correct...It's not "the suit" that is the problem....but the type of suit. Rat Pack, James bond type suits, those are awesome....and could make a performer feel slick... Some of the suits Robert Deniro wears in Casino are eye popping, especially the red jacket/red tie/black silk shirt I could be happy in that type of suit |
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Jeff Corn Inner circle Las Vegas 1190 Posts |
It depends on what kind of image you want to get across. When I was performing weekly in an nicer bar in Albuquerque, I would alternate between the suit and tie and a nice shirt, jeans, and coat. The coat would always set me apart from everyone else, but other than that, it was on me to dress how I felt most comfortable. The owner told me to dress however I wanted, but if I would have shown up in torn jeans and a t-shirt, I wouldn't have made it through the door. When I would do a show for anyone between the ages of 16 and 35, I was in the nicer jeans, shirt, and coat. That's the style they wanted. If you're wanting to work for a Fortune 500 company, you're not doing it in jeans. If you're working for the average 15 year old's birthday party, you probably don't need the tux.
Yes, that is my real name. Yes, I am a real person. No, you probably won't agree with me.
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George Ledo Magic Café Columnist SF Bay Area 3042 Posts |
The other part of the equation is how you wear the suit. If it looks natural on you, you can look like a million bucks. If it doesn't look natural, then get something else. There was a quote about Sinatra a number of years ago, to the effect that he wore a tux like a cowboy wears chaps. That's a heck of a compliment.
All the suits and tuxes James Bond wore in the movies were tailored to the individual actor -- Connery, Moore, and so on. Granted we don't all have that luxury, but checking out different brands and fabrics and colors (with someone along as an objective eye) can make all the difference.
That's our departed buddy Burt, aka The Great Burtini, doing his famous Cups and Mice routine
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
"Yeah, the Rat Pack is gone and look what we got in Vegas, everybody running around, playing the tables, taking in the shows dressed like it was KMarts blue light special on sweat pants.
Amen, Doc! We have become a society without class. For me, I love to wear a classy suit or tux. Not only lots of pockets, but it just makes me feel a couple a clicks up. I certainly do not want to join the masses who look like they dressed in the dark. As for feeling like a corporate schmuck, I try to avoid $69 suits, short, wrinkled ties, soup stains, jackets that are not fitted, and unpolished shoes. And, don't be fooled, "Dress for Success" is still alive and well in the upper regions of society! Jim
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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JIMclubber64 Loyal user 269 Posts |
For my more dressed-up "suit" (which really isn't a suit at all) I wear white khakis(sp?), a purple dress shirt without a tie, and a dark blue sports coat. It's not casual, but it doesn't have a formal or dressy feel to it, either. But in my opinion, no matter what, if you want to not look like everyone else, stay away from a white dress shirt.
"Magic should always have a purpose. [...] Find your purpose for performing. Only then will you be able to find the right trick!" -- Jay Noblezada
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
You can still wear a suit and look completely different from the rest. Just design a suit that is DIFFERENT with a look that hasn't been done. For example; who said that the bottom of a suit must be straight across? Have it made so that one side is lower so that the cut is in an angle. Who said that the sleeves must come down to your wrist or that the collar must be normal?
Heck, what about the breast pocket being cut in a slant that matches the bottom of your coat? I wear a suit, bu tands out from the other guys. The other guys are wearing blue or white shirts while a few may wear pin stripes. I wear a white suit that is cut for me and hangs lower to the floor than normal. Everyone else is wearing the same dull colors suits so when I enter the room I stand out from everyone. When I lived in Korea, I had EVERYTHING made for me the way that I wanted it. There is no reason why you can’t have a suit made that will set you apart. Just remember that a little goes a long way, so don’t go crazy on it. It still must look like a suit but jazz up! Plus, why do you want to COPY people who dress like a rock star with ripped jeans and long hair, or those that dress down and casual? Why don’t you want to be you and stand away from the pack? There are PLENTY of copy cats and want-a-bees out there ALREADY….. Who in their right mind would want to be a COPY CAT? Once you become famous then you can dress like a bum or hobo if you want but until then I would become something different and you. Ray |
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Brian Tanner Loyal user Ohio 297 Posts |
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On 2009-08-26 21:52, VernonOnCoins wrote: Oh God help us all! I beleive they both look ridiculous. They're middle aged men trying to look like goth and skater kids. I'm no spring chicken, myself, yet I dress in age appropriate attire when I perform, and I look and feel d@#n good. Someone mentioned earlier about Vegas patrons dressing in sweat pants, when not so long ago, sharp clothes were the norm in casinos. This is so true, and yet very sad. There are a number of up scale restaurants in my area, and at one time they had strictly enforced dress codes. Alas...no more. It seems that they've had to lower their standards to the sweat pant, shorts and ball cap, tank top wearing slobs, just to stay in business. As stated earlier, you can dress appropriately for the venue without looking like a stiff. There are so many styles and fabrics of sport jackets, trousers, shirts, and ties, you'll be able to look and feel good while performing. It's nice to see that some places still have their standards intact. |
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Magical Dimensions Inner circle 5001 Posts |
Brian Tanner
Well said! Best Ray |
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MichaelOzMagic Loyal user Des Moines, Iowa 234 Posts |
I think that every magician should look different. For one I don't like balck suits because every magician is wearing one. I like to dress different by wearing somthing that is unique and people say" Good finally somthing different." I a red suit with a nice white polo and also red pants. But another thing you need to look at is what fits your personality?
If you find what fits you then most likely the audience will like you! NOt trying to be offensive just my personal thoughts!! thanks magician 4life |
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VernonOnCoins Inner circle NYC 1978 Posts |
The master, Juan Tamariz wears jeans and a multicolored top hat. On television.
The world conformed to him. |
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chmara Inner circle Tucson, AZ 1911 Posts |
Sometimes it depends on who writes the checks.
Corporate audiences tend to equate grunge with awful smells -- as do restaurants. A unique look, however can be accomplished with a little thought. What about a suit from India (look under India Wedding suits on line) A "Gangster"" look (not Gangsta) from old movies might also work One reason I live in Tucson is I hate to wear ties -- but when I was performing in Chicago, Las Vegas or San Fran, I had to look different....and not look like a waiter or busboy --- or homeless person who wadered in. Then, of course, there are performers who perform in Drag to avoid a tie.
Gregg (C. H. Mara) Chmara
Commercial Operations, LLC Tucson, AZ C. H. Mara Illusion & Psychic Entertainments |
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Wilber New user 76 Posts |
When you wear formal attire you will be treated differently and more professionally.
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bob tripp New user 96 Posts |
At one time in mentalism I was 'Karlan Vandah-"the Man With the X-ray Eyes" In Magic I was "Uncle Sham 'the red-white and blue Magic man presenting the United State of Amazement' In those days I wore wardrobe that fit the character. Once in a while I wil still do "Uncle Sham". But now-a-days I am Bob Tripp < "demonstrating traditional psychic feats". I want to be the best dressed person in the room. If you are working a show, and every body is dressed better than you, your self confidence suffers.
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trickychaz Special user West Virginia 549 Posts |
More imporatant than the suit is the person dressed in the suit, but it depends on whom you are presenting yourself to. Reguardless you need to look clean and neat. I don't think the torn jeans would work well at any coporate event large or small. I wear a nice dress shirt tucked in with a few buttons loosened. Others on the Café have said that I need to have a tie and jacket on. If they are paying you 600$ they want to see that you put your best effort forth and are worth what you charged. Then again I knew of a guy that dressed in black shorts with black shirt black hat with cards stapled to it tacky shoes, and was getting 400$ to appear at fairs for 4 hours.
I guess it comes down to your preference. Dress nice in your corporate photos, and then ask the client what the dress code is at the event. They may be ok with the way you currently dress, or they may prefer the sleek look. The best way to figure out what to wear is having various styles to choose from and then ask your client. I am no expert though Charles |
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ferrissteve Regular user 109 Posts |
The James Bond suits are an excellent analogy. If you get a suit cut/altered to fit you perfectly you will stand out amongst the crowd. The fit will scream custom and sophisticated before the color of the wool (Polyester = Evil) ever will. And if you want to spice it up add a pocket square to the mix and you will be golden. A suit doesn't have to be boring, it just takes some work figuring out what looks the best on you and what options are available. Colorful jacket linings are also a fun way to set yourself apart in the corporate arena
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