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Good evening.
After seeing the demo, all I can say is that I am sure I can make this work for me. I'm impressed. I'm seeing a dead/alive prediction with a voo-dough doll.
Something tells me if it tipp-toed across the table it wouldn't be " Light enough on his feet" for some of you guys. He would fail at Dancing With the Stars.
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On 2010-01-03 18:18, The Great Smartini wrote:
When one makes their own copy cat version of a marketed effect then one is simply stealing the original thoughts and ideas of a fellow performer. It doesn't matter whether you market the effect for sale or not. If you animate a lump of clay or a person created from the clay then you're performing Little Man which rightly belongs to PHP...not cool.


However, there was no effect until the demo was posted today. However, I do think Gumby and David & Goliath predated Little Man in animating clay men ;-)

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I'm not surprised by the lack of leg movement/walking as what kind of $300 engineering design would you realistically expect. Still, this isn't walking by definition.


Yeah, it doesn't interest me to replicate the current effect. The engineering of an actual walking clay man is what interested me. I agree that the select-o-matic is more interesting, probably because there is a purpose for his movement, so it doesn't need to seem like a miraculous birth.
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On 2010-01-03 18:18, The Great Smartini wrote:
When one makes their own copy cat version of a marketed effect then one is simply stealing the original thoughts and ideas of a fellow performer.

Jeff


I agree, and hope that Paul Harris credits the originator of this effect.
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On 2010-01-03 19:04, Gospel Dan wrote:
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On 2010-01-03 18:18, The Great Smartini wrote:
When one makes their own copy cat version of a marketed effect then one is simply stealing the original thoughts and ideas of a fellow performer.

Jeff


I agree, and hope that Paul Harris credits the originator of this effect.


Perhaps when you pre-order it, you can review it and let us know.

xD

Liam.
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I have no intentions of pre-ordering it. Don't need to to hope that the originator gets his due credit. The method isn't new. As The Great Smartini stated, "When one makes their own copy cat version of a marketed effect then one is simply stealing the original thoughts and ideas of a fellow performer." Not my words.

"Little Man" isn't a copycat, but Paul has made his own version of a marketed and once published effect. I'm sure credit will be given.
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Good evening Gospel Dan.
So this method has been published and marketed before?
Interesting. Since I don't know what LM's method is I would love to have you point me in the direction of the original effect that used this method. Please PM me as I wouldn't want any exposure of PH's method or the originators.
Thanks.
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On 2010-01-03 18:49, JPK wrote:
Good evening.
After seeing the demo, all I can say is that I am sure I can make this work for me. I'm impressed. I'm seeing a dead/alive prediction with a voo-dough doll.
Something tells me if it tipp-toed across the table it wouldn't be " Light enough on his feet" for some of you guys. He would fail at Dancing With the Stars.


Exactly! That's the first idea/presentation that came into my mind when the little guy was anounced. With the right patter, the right setting with candles (remote ones perhaps) spirit bell and butchers blade...people would freak out.

I was very certain that John Dough is going to 'shuffle' his steps and not take actual steps. There is no technology in the world that would permit that. Not for $3,000.00 and not for $30,000.00, especially when the dough is examinable after the effect...

After all I congratulate the PHP team for finally posting a demo and sticking to the descriptions.

IMHO the only thing I don't like is that he has to walk on top of a bag. It would have been better to have the gimmick under a table...
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Good evening Silvio Solaris.
Well said.
Nice work Paul and team. Of course when the reviews come out from those who use this, we will all be much wiser.
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I'm almost sure that when you get your copy that you'll see that Paul will more than likely give credit where credit is due. I have no need to think otherwise, and no need to bicker about it.
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Good evening Gospel Dan.
I'm sure you are right there. No bickering here.
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Hello Gospel Dan

The only other similar effect we are aware of is Dance Macabe (James Cameron?)..a vastly different approach using a switched in wind up toy. Please let me know if there is anything else out there that we missed. Of course Paul wants to properly credit any other versions of this.

Janet
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I'm interested, too. What's the previously marketed effect, Gospel Dan?

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How about Maury Leif's Sphinx?
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How about Maury Leif's Sphinx?


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It looks like he is walking to me, one foot in front of the other. Very cool. This is what I expected, it is just how I remember Gumby walking. But even better.
I wonder if I can make Pokey and make him walk?

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Can you have multiple Little Man's walking at the same time?

A "little" army...in other words. Smile
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This looks great! The advertisement sounded too good to be true, but PH has actually done it. Congratulations to this beautiful piece of art!

Now if only I had another $300 left.
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I'd already pre-ordered and I have to say there was some initial disappointment at seeing the demo but on subsequent viewing I do find it more impressive. The biggest let down at first was definitely the walking, he doesn't really seem to walk but slide which is a shame but I understand the limitations. I also noticed the plastic bag has turned into a small gift bag, which to me looks a little more suspicious than the plastic bag sounded.

I like the fact any dough can be used and the little man can be offered to the spectator to keep, though this does put more focus on the bag. It's also a nice touch that the dough can double up as dog food.

The thing that concerns me most is the use of the card on the feet, is this necessary? Is it to do with traction or is this more crucial to the effect's workings?

I'd also like to know how big the man can be built, as I'd like it to be visible on stage in small club/room environments?

If Janet or anyone else who worked on the effect could respond to my questions that would be greatly appreciated.
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Now if you tore off little pieces of the business card and folded them up around his feet and drew two little wheels on the sides it would look like he was skating Smile
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The actual name of the magician is Charles Cameron, who wrote a number of magic books. I'm not sure but it may have been in "Mind Your Magic". It was a neat idea for the time, but top heavy with performance issue. Not sure it was actually performable.
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