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You can set him on the bag at an angle...maybe a quarter turn away from the can (instead of pointing directly at the can). His first movement would then turn him toward the can..where he would then keep on moving in that direction. Not sure if this gives you what you need. Hope this helps.

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Thanks, Janet, that's probably enough to make the idea work.

My gosh, I can't believe you answered this question at this hour. Get some sleep, will you?
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On the subject of his walking, although somewhat disappointed I don't think I ever expected him to lift his feet like Dan expected. What I did expect was one foot to move forward at a time as opposed to rotating each side to create movement. I'd also like him to move a little further as I'm concerned the lengthy making process may prove to make the payoff underwhelming.

Thanks must go to Janet for fielding all the questions and criticism, I'm going to keep my pre-order but I am a little concerned than an improved v2 will be released in the near future where many of the criticisms are rectified and I'll feel like a wasted my money on the prototype.
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Sorry I was also disappointed when seeing the demo first.
if it slides backwards you can sell it at least as a moonwalk.
the bag may perceive the high price but the actual walk is'nt a walk!
it really looks like some clay is pulled across a black paper bag.

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I was also terribly disappointed when I saw the video. To claim he walks step by step is very misleading. He glides a few inches as if there is something m******c inside him and there is a strong m****t nearby. For the price, I'll give this a miss and I was hoping it would be something far more impressive than it appears to be.

I feel sorry for those that pre-ordered it.
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Potty said, "No offense meant, but you might want to consider how many times folks are prepared to re-read the same opinion."

No offense taken.(lol)

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Lord Freddie, no need to feel sorry for those that pre ordered... for one thing they can get their money refunded and not everyone sees it the same way you do.
Many have come up with performance ideas they are excited about. Even Bob Cassidy in the locked thread said Little Man is, "excellent and has fantastic possibilities."
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It's a neat little effect but as I said for $300 I didn't expect him to take actual steps... I just wish he could walk on any flat surface and not just on top of the small size BA baggy.
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I'm with you on the bag thing but that is really my only disappointment, albeit a small one.

I had never planned to buy this effect but after watching the demo, I was very impressed and have already started dreaming up presentation ideas. I may end up getting this afterall.
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Until we get some reviews of folks actually performing this for real people, It is hard to speculate the level of astonishment this effect will render. I have a hard time thinking like a laymen, when it comes to this sort of thing. Having said that, I must admit that I had built up unrealistic expectations in my mind of what it would look like. I do however think that a more polished video demo might have helped.
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I was also let down by the demo.

One would have expected a little more articulation from the character but he looked like he was being pulled by 2 invisible threads, each on either side of him. ( yes I know that's not the method)
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Reminds me of Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em Robots.
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I will also add my concern about the bag. Some friends that I have who do not visit this forum, saw the video and were focused on the bag! Why the bag? The first comment from a spectator will be "make him do it without the bag". I really have no problem with the rest of this effect.

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A paper slip cover on a small book may be an alternate approach. You then have a portable "flat surface" and if the book is appropriately titled, a lovely little stage for him to perform upon. Just thinking out loud!

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On 2010-01-05 16:12, Ben Harris wrote:
A paper slip cover on a small book may be an alternate approach. You then have a portable "flat surface" and if the book is appropriately titled, a lovely little stage for him to perform upon. Just thinking out loud!

Benny



great idea Ben!
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... must test the theory that bad Haiku can lock a thread... this could be useful...

Some like it... some not.
It's what you make of it, yes?
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On 2010-01-05 15:57, Martello wrote:
I will also add my concern about the bag. Some friends that I have who do not visit this forum, saw the video and were focused on the bag! Why the bag? The first comment from a spectator will be "make him do it without the bag". I really have no problem with the rest of this effect.

Arthur

....which is where routining comes in. Your friends have seen the effect only, not a full presentation. By telling a story as you build your John Dough, you will draw the spectators in. The most important part of the animation (in my opinion) is that it should be completely unexpected. It would possibly work best if the magi didn't even see the movement at first. Act the part right, and your audience will laugh, not demand to examine your props.
Really, I'm quite sure this is a worker. As usual though, it must be well-routined and presented in a series of effects, not as a stand-alone demonstration of your magical ability.
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I hope this is not taken as a jab. There are types of magicians that never say anything negative because they infact, never want anything negative said about their own effects or presentation. I am not that kind of guy.There are also people that are just plain cruel. This is strictly meant as observations not as a performer (even though I do perform), but more importantly a fan.

If feedback is what Paul Harris would like then here is my feedback. Let it be known that I was immensely looking forward to this trailer. At first read of the very descriptive effect, I had to have it. How could you not want an effect that seemingly brings life to an inanimated object. The add originally claimed that the little man would be observed by all, taking steps. Nothing added to the clay, hands are clean before and after...everything can be inspected. It was a heavy order to fill. One that a local Magic shop owner and performer warned me against..."It is to good to be true." Is what he told me. His insight perceived this as a man using this as bait, to get you to view other items. Be that as it may, or may not.I was holding out, to be impressed. To prove him wrong.
My first view of the trailer. It was nice to see a video that was just an honest video shoot all the way through. No distracting or overly creative editing to mention. What you see is apparently what you will get. As I eagerly watched...I was immediately disappointed. Then got over it...OK I expected to much. I liked the reveal. I liked the fact that you could walk away...it can be examined. I liked many things that I could list on paper. Howerver...the disappointments.
My first disappointment when watching the video was that it
A. Did not take actual steps or even remotely look like it. Take that away....take the fact that it was built up in my mind out of the picture. Over all. It simply was not amazing. Even if the actual workings were not what it looked like.It simply was clever...and not jaw dropping.
I know this is nothing new and has been stated by many. Whether this is the actual workings of it or not doesn't matter. The theme in my mind now is that it looks like a clever engineered toy. It simply registers as a mechanical way of getting this clay figure to slide in a shuffle like manner. Every Magician wants to rid the possibility of magnets, strings or other such devices. Even if those ways are not the actual workings of it...it appears to be guessed by many. So that is a wall.Does this make it a terrible thing? No...but I'll be darned if I have to go into an in depth discussion with the person next to me about what he THOUGHT he saw.
I am willing to bet Paul will never make the mistake of announcing such a project in advance the same way again. It is NOT the perception people had in their mind. The perception that was molded and shaped by the very description of the add. So again...mistake or grossly exaggerated description, either way It is forgiven. However, it still did not seem magical. Clever? Yes.
B. Again even though it may not have much to do with the effect, something was added to the clay. It has been described as nothing needs to be added but it will be important to limit friction with the clay and the surface it will shuffle against. If a naked version is available...why was it not shown first? Was it because it did not work as well? Not as strong?

So again...nothing new with the reasons for the disappointment. But what I wanted to add in my own words was the simple fact that even if the actual workings of the effect are different than what looks like is taking place. It still looks mechanical...not magical. So knowing all that.It is a clever object. I love that it can be examined. I love the variety and original reveals that can happen. It just does not come across as magical in this video. Even if I had never read the pre-release write up. Even my kids and wife thought it was cool...but not magical. They were not "wowed". So...IMO no ammount of patter will change what it looks like it is doing.
Will I buy it? Good question. If I do...why? As a collectors piece? Probably. Will I use it? I just don't know. I had very original patter that I though would be perfect. If I have to convince myself to buy it, because of great engineering and not that it looks great...It may just not be worth it.
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Wow...

I gotta tell ya, I too, was disappointed with the video--reminded me of the old "electric football" game from my youth. For $300, I'm gonna pass, but having seen the demo, I'm afraid I would pass even it was $30. I guess it's kinda cute, but regardless of the method, I just didn't find the effect at all magical. My wife, who is a very good spectator and enjoys watching magic, felt the same way.

Of course, that's only MY opinion--if you can use this to amaze and entertain, you should definitely go for it. As mandarin said, vote with your wallet.
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I wonder how different reactions might have been had there not been any advance hype?
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