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Havens![]() Veteran user UK 340 Posts ![]() |
Hopefully a lot of the criticism will prove constructive and help improve Little Man before release. Just an idea but how about listing the things we'd like to see improved so PHP can work on these before release. I'd like to see:
1. Improved walking. Rather than rotating each side I'd like to see 1 foot slide forward at a time. 2. More steps, at the moment it seems to be a lot of build up for a relatively short walk. I'm afraid people will miss the walk, especially when performing to larger crowds. 3. A bigger bag, it seems odd to work on something so small. 4. Can the tub appear a little less uniform and attached to the bag, at the moment it looks fixed in place, unnatural and suspicious. 5. Options to perform Little Man on something other than the bag or instructions on adapting the effect to other surfaces. 6. To be able to perform Little Man without adding card to the feet. I know a "naked" version has been promised but at present I have no idea what this actually means. 7. I'd like the possibility to make the figure as large as possible and certainly larger than an additional 1/3 the size shown in the video, again for larger audiences. |
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Amiable![]() Regular user 153 Posts ![]() |
@Havens: That is Little Man 2.0. It is to be released in 2012**.
** or when everyone who wants Little Man 1.0 has purchased one, whichever is earlier. |
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Havens![]() Veteran user UK 340 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-10 15:59, Amiable wrote: Exactly. I'm hoping PHP will benefit from the feedback gained by the early announcement of the product. |
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amedica Regular user 109 Posts ![]() |
A demo with an audience would be great
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ziggystarsane![]() New user Melbourne - Australia 92 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-10 18:37, amedica wrote: It took us long enough to get the one we have.... It might be easier to simply show the current one on a big screen to a live studio audience! |
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Jonathan Townsend![]() Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-10 19:19, ziggystarsane wrote: with the L&L audience?
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ziggystarsane![]() New user Melbourne - Australia 92 Posts ![]() |
With the L&L audience?
[/quote] HAHA....Brilliant, It's always good to see a familiar face or two |
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PsiDroid![]() Inner circle 2165 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-06 13:38, runawayjag wrote: yes I agree 100%: a saying in magic states exactly that no matter if spectators have the wrong solution: as long as they believe they have the solution. a wrong solution is as bad as the right one other than that.... I think that poor little man is so cute and hes trying to do his best to walk |
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Larry Davidson![]() Inner circle Boynton Beach, FL 5270 Posts ![]() |
That's why the walking needs to be a means to a very magical end instead of an end itself.
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Acecardician![]() Inner circle New Orleans 1382 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-10 20:55, ziggystarsane wrote: HAHA....Brilliant, It's always good to see a familiar face or two [/quote] I LOVE the L&L audience! ACE
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amedica Regular user 109 Posts ![]() |
The one leg at a time suggestion seems a little unrealistic
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johndraws![]() Loyal user Danville, Illinois 202 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-08 13:53, Robert M wrote: Again to parrot what has already been said. No one is negating Paul's contributions to magic. However, a creator should hear much of what is being said about their product. Whether it is the anticipation of it's release or the actual review. What everyone here is giving feedback on is on this video's representation of Little Man. IF they did not want to hear the hype...they would not have put it out before the release of the effect. This is exactly what the boards are for. Discussion. No one should pat anyone on the back just because it took time and effort to create something. If the trick is poorly represented, executed or even weakly designed it NEEDS to be pointed out.It also needs to be heard by Paul. It certainly will be voiced by an audience. Simply put.. If not...nothing improves. In the old days, if you were demonstrating a trick ( in a bar instead of a message board) to the professionals and it was poor, you would be eaten alive. That honest "punch" you described...is needed. Why lock it? After 20 pages....I doubt anyone would have to read on to get the overwhelming feedback that this is not what was expected and people are disappointed in it. Simply taking it away or locking it out...will not prevent it from existing. Just turning a blind eye to it. As a creater...you should WANT to hear it. I find it hard to believe Paul would have been suprised to hear such lashback. He took WAY to long to put out a promotional video and before it was released already started to offer a "bonus". Oh...and to wonder if anyone believed that it would actually take a step one leg at a time? It stated that in the add, why would they NOT believe it? Gullible? I have a better phrase. Misrepresentation. Then you imply that people don't have the class they should because they are calling him on it? I think you have it backwards. Honesty. Want it. Grow from it. |
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Bill Hegbli![]() Eternal Order Fort Wayne, Indiana 22799 Posts ![]() |
Live Clay-mation action would have been a better description of 'Little Man'.
Fully examinable is another description, which needs revision as I know some audiences that would tear up the bag and pull all the clay out of the container to prove they will not be fooled. I have been a Paul Harris fan since his 1st publication, but ever since he left for several years and has returned to magic, it seems he is just selling his name to tricks of other peoples. No one hears from him in any form, so is it a Paul Harris creation. I do not see any Paul Harris creativity in this effect at all. This Little Man would have been a top seller in the 1960's, but I think audiences are a little more knowledgeable today. And the price, it is over the top for a close up effect, but that seems to be the magic $ amount that is attached to exclusive new items on the market today. The effect is what I thought would finally turn out, I did not believe the ad in the 1st place. I did think it would have the little 'Playskool' hat included though. Not a bad effect, if it wasn't misrepresented by the original advertising. |
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ricardo carpenter![]() Regular user 107 Posts ![]() |
Is it really a failure?
are we not fully astonished? |
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daffydoug![]() Eternal Order Look mom! I've got 14072 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-11 04:34, amedica wrote: Agreed. The cost for that improvement may be hundreds of dollars more. As it is, the clay man actually shuffles, and technically, shuffling is indeed a form of walking. Reminds me of Tim Conway's "Little old man" on the old Carol Burnette show. But for the little guy to raise each leg, perhaps bend the knees, put each foot down as he steps, would require technology, I'm afraid far beyond the reach of Even Paul Harris. More along the lines of George Lucas and ILM, I'd say. THe right music would be nice, here.. Gollywog's cake-walk would be appropriate.
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Acecardician![]() Inner circle New Orleans 1382 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-11 06:36, wmhegbli wrote: Good Description wm. That is exactly what I was expecting. That is how a clay person walks. And that is fully how I was expecting him to walk. When I first saw the ad, I imagined "clay-mation" walking, and this was what was in my mind. I don't see the big deal. He is walking taking a step at a time(in Clay-mation land). This is like bringing a cartoon to life. I still probably will not get this, as I don't do table top magic. ACE ![]()
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Robert M![]() Inner circle 2482 Posts ![]() |
Just a reminder: There are 2 other threads running about creative ways to potentially use "Little Man". Here are the links for both. They're tucked away for some reason in the "Little Darlings" section, but both threads contain some decidedly mature (and entertaining) themes:
Positive creative ideas for "Little Man" http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=17&44 and Little Man presentation ideas http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......um=17&15 Robert M |
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professorwhut![]() Inner circle Posts R US sold me 1353 Posts ![]() |
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Acecardician![]() Inner circle New Orleans 1382 Posts ![]() |
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On 2010-01-11 16:54, professorwhut wrote: lol I remember those!
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Dan Bernier![]() Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts ![]() |
I think the reason one of those threads was moved was because it was off topic for this forum (Latest and Greatest), and rather than just delete it, it was moved to the Little Darlings forum where someone had started the same kind of thread already. Thus, the reason for having two threads for similiar topics.
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