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On 2009-11-26 14:02, Louis Cipher wrote:
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On 2009-10-23 12:43, InfinityDream wrote:
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On 2009-10-20 15:30, vinsmagic wrote:
Antonio your effect and beyond are teriffic effects
vinny


Thank you very much.

Anyway, my method is an adaptation of Beyond on the chat.
In the pdf there is a brief explanation of the method with some example.
Tommy suggests to change it in order to adapt this concept at your performance.
Beyond on the chat is my interpretation.

-Antonio


I have an idea: ask Tommy to include your effect in his ebook. It sounds good.

(_Louis Cipher_)


Hi Louis,
all you have to know to perform my ACAAN on the chat is already inside the ebook.

-Antonio
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If someone are interested I have found a new video demo about "King of Illusion":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3A3CHMO9MU

I believe it is a good method and if you use it in "Beyond" you can improve it.

-Antonio
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Antonio King of illusion wonderfull effect,,,,,, question ,is Carmine a stooge ??/
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On 2009-12-26 13:20, vinsmagic wrote:
Antonio King of illusion wonderfull effect,,,,,, question ,is Carmine a stooge ??/
vinny


I believe it is a good version to create a perfect ACAAN "Illusion"
There are no stooges in King of Illusion: The guy is not a stooge.

-Antonio
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On 2009-12-06 10:28, Stefan O. wrote:
Vinny,

I actually do have a demo, but it is only in German and is not public yet. To all of you who are interested please PM me or send me an email and I will submit a link to the demo. Please do not distribute it anywhere and keep it private.

Best
Stefan


Hi Stefan,
can I ask you to send me a video demo about your effect? Just I want to see the differences between your effect and Beyond ACAAN.

If it is not a problem my e-mail adress is: m.parisi1979@gmail.com

Thank you very much.

M.P
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Marco,

I sent you a PM.

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On 2010-01-14 04:52, entermagic wrote:

Just I want to see the differences between your effect and Beyond ACAAN.



Hi M.P,
I believe the differences are:

1. Key To Your Card is a gimmicked version of ACAAN and Beyond no.

2. KTYC works very well only on the stage and Beyond works well on the stage and in close up performance

3. KTYC is not impromptu ( You need to have a chest ), Beyond works with any deck, anywhere and almost any time.

4. KTYC works always. Beyond might fail if the spectator tries to challenge the magician ( The spectator thinks a card only and, for example, if he thinks of 7 of clubs and in order to challenge the magician says 6 of Diamonds Beyond fails ).

5. KTYC is a single effect. Beyond is a new concept to create impossible tricks, if you apply this concept at ACAAN you have Beyond ACAAN.

6. When the magician performs Beyond it is selfworking: Indeed the magician needs just to ask to think of a card and number. I don't know the secret of KTYC then I cannot say anything.

-Antonio
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On 2009-10-23 12:43, InfinityDream wrote:

Anyway, my method is an adaptation of Beyond on the chat.
Beyond on the chat is my interpretation.

-Antonio


Please, can you send me a video demo about your version?

M.P
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Please, can you send me a video demo about your version?

M.P


I have not a video demo about my effect.

I have seen your thread about Random ACAAN, what are the differences between the two methods?

-Antonio
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On 2010-02-01 05:42, InfinityDream wrote:

I have seen your thread about Random ACAAN, what are the differences between the two methods?

-Antonio


Hi Antonio,
the differences are:

1. Beyond ACAAN is an application of new concept in an ACAAN effect. Random ACAAN is only an effect

2. Beyond ACAAN is almost "any time" effect, Random ACAAN is an "any time" effect.

3. You can perform Random ACAAN via pre-recorded video in off line mode. Beyond with this last condition is impossible.

4. In Random ACAAN, the spectator shuffles the deck during the effect. In Beyond, the spectator counts only the card on the table.

5. In Beyond, the spectator thinks of card and a number only. In Random ACAAN, card and number are selected randomly.

6. Random ACAAN is much more pratical than Beyond.

M.P
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How? When the magician performs Beyond ACAAN, he only puts the deck of cards on the table and then he must not do anything else. I think there is not an ACAAN effect as clean as possible than Beyond ACAAN.

-Antonio
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On 2010-02-02 03:54, InfinityDream wrote:
How? When the magician performs Beyond ACAAN, he only puts the deck of cards on the table and then he must not do anything else. I think there is not an ACAAN effect as clean as possible than Beyond ACAAN.

-Antonio


You are rigth. Beyond is very clean, it is the best solution if you want the
classic ACAAN effect.
Random ACAAN is very easy and pratical: I believe, Random ACAAN will become a classic immediately.

MP
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Well I have no idea who keeps deleting my posts, but until they actually talk to me I shall continue.

I don't believe this product is worth any serious student of the arts attention.

It is full of things that literally made me laugh outloud, until I remembered I had lost out on 27 euros.

Beyond acaan is in my opinion nowhere near the best solution if you want a classic acaan effect.

Classic acaan does not have a the details prearranged.

I would be wary of this 'contribution' that claims originality in some incredible ways.



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I hope Random is better, as I don't see Beyond as a workable solution in the way I see ACAAN. Then everyone has their own perfect view and they are different. For me a time delay/misdirection does not work. Once the magi has the info (card/number) if the deck is then touched by other than a spectator.. it's dead. In other words, the second the card or number is proclaimed, you really have to go into the dealing and discovery process. Any time or noodling involved kills the effect. Of course there's a very easy (IMO) way to perform ACAAN with borrowed, shuffled deck that is only touched briefly by the performer.
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On 2010-02-03 12:11, Tom G wrote:
I hope Random is better, as I don't see Beyond as a workable solution in the way I see ACAAN. Then everyone has their own perfect view and they are different. For me a time delay/misdirection does not work. Once the magi has the info (card/number) if the deck is then touched by other than a spectator.. it's dead. In other words, the second the card or number is proclaimed, you really have to go into the dealing and discovery process. Any time or noodling involved kills the effect. Of course there's a very easy (IMO) way to perform ACAAN with borrowed, shuffled deck that is only touched briefly by the performer.


The idea of Beyond is good, I see only one problem:
If you remember this effect, like King of Illustion, LA ACAAN and so on is only an extra bonus. Tommy explains just the idea and gives some example how to create the effect, but there is not an explanation of a detailed routine, I believe the reason is that this effect was only a bonus. At moment, in my act I use an ACAAN version based on Beyond idea, the difference is that I ask to name a card and a number like the classic ACAAN. Anyway you have to think a little bit before to have a solid version, but when you have it I believe you can fool everyone.

About Random ACAAN, I believe it is very good. The big difference between Beyond and Random is: Random is a complete routine and after you read the pdf you are able to perform it immediately without any preparation. I believe some other member has already seen this effect and can confirm this. Beyond is a concept and you need to adapt at your performance to have it.

MP
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Tommy:

Stop talking about it. It doesn't help you.

Just finish the pdf., send it out to a few people who you think know what they are talking about when it comes to cards, and let them post a review.

I think it's a good idea, your random version. I don't know what your final routine will be, but if it's good, people will say so. You don't have to.

- entity
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Tommy? I don't think M.P. Is Tommy, Tommy has a different screen name
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