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I will admit the "orange" comment was a mistake- several other people mentioned that as well.

I saw a television show where the producer rater something "yellow" on a scale from 1 to square. I love the surreal quality to the system, and it amused me.

After I used it people commented that they thought the "orange" was the fruit, and round, like a zero. I thought that was reaching a bit but I can understand the confusion. So, I apologize for that.

The real rating was "Not Recommended" and I gave numerous reasons for why I felt that way.

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Thank you Ben for clearing this up with me an I apologize for assuming
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Ben:

1. Your comment is off topic: This thread has been create to talk about Beyond and not about Destiny 2.

2. In the version that you has already reviewed Beyond ACAAN is not present, why do you say not raccomanded if you don't have it? If I am extremely biased you are extremely biased in negative. Anyway Destiny 2 is changed.

3. Before your review, there was a lot of good review about Destiny 2 and I ask everyone that have already Destiny 2 if this pdf is raccomanded or not.

In order to avoid another influence by me, this is my last post on this topic: I am "extremely biased" in positive. I ask Ben to don't write any other post for the same reason: "extremely biased" in negative.

I want to see what is the opinion of the real buyers about Destiny 2. (I have a FREE copy of Destiny 2 and I am not a buyer)

Thank you very much.

M.P.

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This is a very odd thread. As far as actual performing, pre-show or Barrie's impromptu version both seem fine, simple, and to the point... for me. Searching for better versions, or methods with stricter conditions... seems to be more of a critical thinking exercise than anything else. And that's great.

I see nothing wrong with using a certain plot as an exercise to stretch our thinking, as long as we realize it's just an exercise. To me, this is almost the entire point of ACAAN. ACAAN is a pretty decent effect for laypeople, but beyond that, it's just a great, fun puzzle for magicians to ponder.

Seeing different takes on a plot can be very helpful in developing your own style of thinking about magic. With that in mind, every contribution can be something to learn from. Vehemently disliking something can be just as (if not more) helpful in developing your magical point of view as absolutely loving something. Whether this makes it "worth it" to you depends on if you approach your magic from an academic standpoint or not.
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PJ Jeff . very well said.when some or most say they dislike your product and you believe in wha you are doing then make it better.
This is what Tommy has did he made his product better .IMO Tommy s very creative and very sensiive about his work,,,
my personal favorte of Tommys is his "criminal induction"
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M.P.

If me not posting about Tommy's stuff means you won't post about it either, you have a deal.

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My mistake, I posted in the wrong thread. The Dave I was referring to above is Dave Forrest and his ACAAN. My apologies for posting about it in the wrong spot, his is great btw.

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You'll excuse me, of course, if I offer my tuppence worth....

it seems to mer thart the thing id this: One's card is at precisel'y onr's nuimber - you seee?

Teh amnswer to hiuds has always presented itself to me -0 in a number of different says...

I've come to realise that thw truth is in the performner...and that, dear friends, is whoy most of you will now never eggsperience...

Butt, having saisd all that - I kiss you all fondly on the forehead and say 'yes' - it is you! ACAN is at the foot of your bed - it's right there....

...and be mindfull...the weak give up easy.

That is all.
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Wrong location!!!

I believe the correct location for this thread is 'Penny for your thoughts' because there are no reviews about the pdf, but only a discussion about Beyond.
Anyway there is already a thread about this effect here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=159&29

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On 2009-10-13 19:04, Dave Forrest wrote:
You'll excuse me, of course, if I offer my tuppence worth....

it seems to mer thart the thing id this: One's card is at precisel'y onr's nuimber - you seee?

Teh amnswer to hiuds has always presented itself to me -0 in a number of different says...

I've come to realise that thw truth is in the performner...and that, dear friends, is whoy most of you will now never eggsperience...

Butt, having saisd all that - I kiss you all fondly on the forehead and say 'yes' - it is you! ACAN is at the foot of your bed - it's right there....

...and be mindfull...the weak give up easy.

That is all.


Too many pints?
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As another very well respected magician once said to me: ACAAN is for magicians. A Brainwave deck is far more impressive to a lay person than counting down a card at a specific number.

Hate to admit it but he's probably right...
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On 2009-10-15 02:28, pearljamjeff wrote:
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On 2009-10-13 19:04, Dave Forrest wrote:
You'll excuse me, of course, if I offer my tuppence worth....

it seems to mer thart the thing id this: One's card is at precisel'y onr's nuimber - you seee?

Teh amnswer to hiuds has always presented itself to me -0 in a number of different says...

I've come to realise that thw truth is in the performner...and that, dear friends, is whoy most of you will now never eggsperience...

Butt, having saisd all that - I kiss you all fondly on the forehead and say 'yes' - it is you! ACAN is at the foot of your bed - it's right there....

...and be mindfull...the weak give up easy.

That is all.


Too many pints?


No, that's how they talk in Scotland. BTW, Dave has some GREAT stuff. Can't wait till I get my Radio Rental DVD.

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Oh, and another thing ... there is no such thing as a GRAIL. Everyone has their own, too subjective. Never happen. Futile argument/debate. But fun nonetheless.

J
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On 2009-10-15 14:30, Cameron Francis wrote:
As another very well respected magician once said to me: ACAAN is for magicians. A Brainwave deck is far more impressive to a lay person than counting down a card at a specific number.

Hate to admit it but he's probably right...


ACAAN is for magician you are right, but if you have a good version where the magician performs it in the hands of the spectator without touch ever the deck, you give the illusion of a miracle. With the Beyond principle, I am able to perform ACAAN via chat on internet without to see the deck ever!!!! There are no similar effect as strong as this one. ACAAN is always the best mental effect with a deck of card. Just my opinion. Brainwave is a good effect like the Invisible Deck. The problem is that these effects is enough popular, maybe the layman has already this
deck.

-Antonio
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Antonio I love your effect brilliant
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On 2009-10-20 15:27, vinsmagic wrote:
Antonio I love your effect brilliant
vinny


Thank you.

This is not my effect, it is only an application of Beyond.

-Antonio
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I was speaking of the Third eye is that yours??
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The Third Eye is not mine. It is good effect, but very easy to figure out the secret. Beyond is much more strong and clean of this one and you don't have to write nothing: You have just to ask to think of a card and number without force.
I understand that you look for the grail of ACAAN... The grail doesn't exist, but if it exists Beyond is much more better!!! Just my opinion.

-Antonio
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I was complementing on both effects , yes there is no grail, an i' am not looking for it only the closest thing to the grail.
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Are antonios two effects - third eye and beyond - for sale anywhere?
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