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magicman6 New user 12 Posts |
Hi,
I have owned the inviso torch for some time, but I have stopped using it for multiple reasons. The one thought that I can't get is, what I wear with it. I have worn a button-down shirt, tee-shirt, and a jacket... all have caught fire when it retracted. I tried to wave my hands as it retracts to put out the flame, yet that one little flame ignites everything I wear. No serious injury yet. Can someone tell me what they wear with their inviso-torch? Greg |
streetmagician_08 Regular user 133 Posts |
Can someone tell me what you wear, because I want to purchase this effect and am wondering if you can just wear a button-down shirt without any visible evidence of where the flame went? Ex. Hey I saw something go up your s****e.
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BroDavid Inner circle America’s North Coast, Ohio 3176 Posts |
I wear a sport coat of various fabrics, usually with a nylon or other similar "silk like" lining, and I never have a problem with my inviso torches (I won 3 of them)
The key is to extend it, light it, and then let it go! When you let it go, it snaps and extinguishes itself. If you let it go too slowly or don't extend it far enough, you could have the kind of problems indicated. I have a friend who was lighting his, and then keeping hold of the ignition end when he retracted and his didn't go out very well. But it worked great for me, and he changed his handling, and it works great for him now. But I have not had a "catching my clothes on fire" problem once in several years of using them in a lot of venues, wearing a lot of different style and fabric jackets. My performing style, and personal preference (I get cold easily) dictates a jacket, and so I seldom go anywhere (even in jeans) without one. I can't speak to wearing a T-Shirt (Where would it hide?) or other clothing though. BroDavid
If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything.
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mghia Veteran user Kymystical 387 Posts |
Magicians are crazy folk. It is amazing what people will risk for a SFX. It is amazing that we get away with selling stuff that would never be allowed in "the real world."
I have seen this device stay lit too many times and seen many posts on flaming tubes not going out or leaking gas lines. It is one thing for professionals or its creator to be able to use it properly but it amazes me further that they do not feel they have to take it to the next step. The next step is to make it work for all levels. If not, get insured so when someone eventually lights their polyester suit from the 70's ablaze, they are covered. No disclaimer is real protection. The safety issue to be worked out is a fool proof extingush in all conditions. My only suggestion is to buy some flame retardant spray and apply to the lining. It could stiffen up the fabric, but which do you prefer, clean clothes and burn-free body or stiff shirts? Theatre Effects in Maryland carrys some for spraying backdrops and props. |
kaytracy Inner circle Central California 1793 Posts |
Mghia, I agree with you on many points, I think firefighters get the top rank for crazy, but in a good way!
On the other hand, there needs to be some measure of personal responsibility on the part of the end user. I personally think doing any flash or fire effects at kids shows is very wrong. At young ages, imitation leads to loss of home, or worse, but I see it done all the time. Water, in the wrong hands , can be a dangerous weapon and oddly enough, you might be surprised what DOES get sold in the real world that is still dangerous. (ever see a warning label on a skateboard?) I have seen a number of effect creators participate on these boards and offer to help folks who are having problems. Is anything "foolproof"? It depends if the "fool" read the instructions (Not aimed at any specific user or reader now!!) It is just that many people will get the box, take a glance at the how it works, then start playing with it. Honestly ask yourself, when you bought your lazer pointer, did you read ALL the instructions, and the safety warning label? Or did you pop the batteries in, cause it looked like a familiar tool, the flash light, looked in the barrel as you hit the button to be sure it worked, then flashed it about the room, entertaining the cat? How about that new power tool, whatever type it is. Do you own and actually USE the safety gear called for with your tools? Hey, you are playing with fire! Think about it, if you are experiencing a problem, ask questions. Also realize perhaps there is a prop or effect that you should not do, for whatever reason. I say Good for you magicman6, for asking for help. (though sooner might have saved you some wardrobe) And I hope you are able to get things worked out okay. Oh, and on the lining. If all the information on the device does not help, and you are determined to use it, consider have your lining made from a more fire retartant fabric. Like the stuff kids pj's are made from. Go to the fabric store and ask for some snips of the fabrics that are fire resist, or fire retardant, two different things there, and label them. Take them home and do a burn test. Find the one you like and get enough to have a lining, or a lined catch bag for your device made.
Kay and Tory
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