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Jay Mahon
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Joe,
I suggest you get the book if you haven't already got it. The detail Jim goes into is very revealing and insightful. Shines a lot of light on what can and can't be done. This should change a lot of illusions...

J
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Well, I simply could not stand it any longer, and I ordered the book last night, even though I really can't quite afford to just yet... but I figure that a couple of weeks' worth of living on peanut butter sandwiches ought to justify it!

Now of course is the impatient "waiting-for-shipment phase"...
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Frank,
You've made a terrible mistake. You see, once you starve this book into your library you will read it. After reading you will discontinue eating all together to afford some of the items in this book.

God have mercy on your stomach.

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I find it silly that this book is not on magioc dealers shelf .
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I find it rather strange that steinmeyer books are found and sold on public sites instead of magic dealers .. why.
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Silly or not this is largely due to the HUGE percentage Magic middlemen take.
Here is how it breaks down roughly.

Writer/Producer 10%
to
Murphies 40%
to
Magic Shop 50%
to
You!

So, on a 100 dollar book the creator can make a measly 10 bucks or 20 bucks. OR! You can get the FULL value per book. Producers aren't getting rich, magic shop owners aren't getting rich... but Murphy's... they are making a fortune. So it's become a bit of a movement for people to produce and distribute themselves. The convenience is not worth the cut these days. Especially with the economy being the way it is.

Also some shops discount and that upsets many producers or work. Caveney comes to mind.

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Hi all,

I ordered my book also. I`m interested in Cub-Ism illusion.

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Jay Mahon
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It's a beautiful illusion. There was a video of The Pendragons performing it somewhere on the internet.

Link anyone?

J
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The more I watch it, the more I like it. I don't say that about many illusions...
Things are more like they are today than they've ever been before...
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I ordered the book. I am extremely interested in those bases, because I already have been working a little bit with that concept. It could turn out to be a small revolution in magic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQxG3kqo624
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUCn41E3itE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qut5zabvRzM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ucnfKWPyyg

After I received it I will play a little with the concept in a 3D program. :-D
I found out that it makes it a lot easier to discover possibillities when you can look around at it in all directions.
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Cubeism is beautiful. I incorporates many aspects of both Origami and the Hindu basket, and Artist's Dream for that matter. Remarkably deceptive. Hopefully the new illusion design techniques that Jim has shared will be incorporated by illusion builders in the future. It will also no doubt produce a number of knock offs and illusions produced with lesser quality materials, shall we say, that will inevitably ruin many illusions in the process.

I'd love to see Jim come out with a book of one man illusions personally.

What do you guys think?

J
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I love topaz he's a rockstar
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You're right Ryan,

For those who don't know Topas is aswell a singer. So I think that some illusions as the "foam" are choregraphied with his own music.
He published already an album of his music.

Oliver.
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I'd love to see Madonna's reaction if one of her 'fans' claimed to love her and misspelled her name at the same time... ;-)) I know the comparison between Topas and Madonna is quite extreme but you see what I mean...

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D
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Thank you for contributing to the discussion David, pointing out an incorrect spelling of one's name has furthered the art! A gentleman and a scholar you are...

You know in reviewing your past posts this seems to be a running trend for you. Why the need to chime in with negativity? I'm sure you have more experience and expertise than so many of us, myself included. Perhaps contributing that way?


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MagicErik--Just a small correction. The final clip you list of Seigfreid and Roy is not a a Steinmeyer optical table and is not in his book. That concept belongs to Peter Marvey.
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Just want to clear something up from a few posts back about how much the magic wholesalers make from an item. First, I agree with Jay that one of the motivations for selling an item direct to the public is that the seller makes more money (i.e., if a book sells for $100, the seller receives the full $100 and nets everything less the cost of producing the book and filling the order).

I'm not a shill for Murphy's, but I don't think they are making a fortune on any one item. In my $100 book example, this is how it would shake out.

1- Murphy's purchases the $100 book form the author/publisher for $40 (i.e., author/publisher receives $40 and has a profit of $40, less the cost of printing and production -- call it $9 per book -- for a profit of $31).

2- Murphy's sells the book to magic dealers for $60 per book (i.e., Murphy's grosses $20 per book, less the cost of shipping, warehousing and order processing -- call it $4 per book -- for a profit of $16 per book).

3- Magic shop sells for $90 - 100 for a profit of $30 - $40, less overhead (which can be quite small for an internet-based company and quite large for a brick and mortar).

In the end, Murphy's makes the smallest piece of the pie, but fulfills the very valuable warehousing, distribution and marketing function. Remember that the author/publisher would have to contact and negotiate with over a hundred magic dealers and then fulfill their individual orders--most authors/publishers don't have the time or inclination to do this. Also remember that while the author/publisher makes less per book with Murphy's fulfilling the wholesale function, it also shifts the risk of the book not selling from itself to Murphy's.

Sorry for the detour, but I wanted to address this in the thread in which it came up.
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David Goldrake: your totally right. I'll just blame it on the alcohol. (j/k) hahahah
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Ryan: You'll be so drunk on Monday!!! You know why! ;-)))

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