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10cardsdown
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Are there any routines available on the market that would simulate picking the correct numbers for a lottery? Smile
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Not to sure what's out there commercially, but it shouldn't be too hard, if you're well versed in mentalism, to develop something.

Of course, this kind of routine always begs the question: why aren't you a millionaire?! Or maybe you are, I don't know. Smile

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There is a routine in 13 Steps (isn't there always) that involves the whole audience in picking the numbers. I've always wanted to work it up and keep it handy in case anyone asks.
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That's what I'm looking for, where the whole audience helps. Where can this be found? Smile
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Quite a few years back at a lee Earle lecture he did an effect using numberd cards called a lexicon deck I think?

Anyway they were shuffled and selected by a few members of the audience. The six cards selected matched the numbers on a lottery ticket dated for the following weekend. Lee signed it so if it did come up the person would have to split it with him!
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It's in Corinda's "13 Steps to Mentalism" (don't have the book handy or I'd give you the pages).

He also suggests a good way of dealing with the "why aren't you a millionaire" question.

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Check out Mark Strivings' tape, "Strivings Speaks, Vol. 1." He does a lottery-themed prediction trick in that tape.

The presentation he does involves only one audience member, but it could be adapted to involve more than one if you wish.

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I've often wondered about Lottery predictions - Why? Where is the logic in saying 'I can predict Lottery Numbers', when you obviously cannot. As an audience member I would surely think 'If you could predict the lottery numbers, why are you here entertaining us, when you could be on some sunny island somewhere, with endless cocktails, beautiful women, etc.?' Wouldn't this prompt the audience to merely question 'How did he do that?' rather than accepting some kind of phenomenon, or 'magic'? I was always under the impression that we, as magicians/mentalists were striving to give the impression that the magic is 'real', and avoiding the types of presentation which make it look like a 'puzzle'.

I don't mean to be controversial - I'm just intrigued as to how people build a lottery prediction into their routines/shows.
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One option is obviously to state that one is a mind reader/thought reader -- and not able to read numbers that someone doesn't already know -- hence the audience participation.

In the lexicon of how one's abilities "work" there are several options one can choose in the creation of a character.

Of course, there's nothing to stop you from claiming that you HAVE hit the lottery and that this is just a hobby. Or you're doing it to keep your abilities honed, etc.

And why aren't there any mentalism icons? Smile
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Well in the Lee Earle version you don't actually predict the lottery you predict what the audience will select by having a genuine ticket with those numbers on it. Of course if those numbers were ever to come up you would be famous over night.
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I thought David Copperfield handled this kind of effect brilliantly when I saw his show a couple of months ago. The routine was built around the idea that his grandfather played the same lottery numbers each week.... This part of his act really gave me new respect for Copperfield.
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Paul Hallas' 'lottery' routine is the best version extant.

Not only does the routine kill, but he has also overcome all the problematic questions arising from the fact that if you could actually predict the lottery then you'd be very rich and famous. And you're not!

I think Paul Daniels, amongst others, told Mr Hallas that his routine was easily the best version of the effect. Stong praise!

Maybe Mr Hallas will direct us to where his trick is in print?

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I grappled with this idea for a few years now and then it finally hit me to combine it in the middle of another routine. So in my stand-up act, I now do a routine I created called Vegas Vacation where I take the audience on an imaginary trip to Las Vegas. I combine bits of Larry Becker's Casino Royale, with Don Wayne's Room Service and Barry Richardson's Totally Isolated Prediction. So in essence, at the end, I have predicted the casino we will visit, the winning hand and amount on Blackjack, the number of the High Roller's room they put us up in and while in the room, we take our winnings and play a Keno ticket of which I have predicted the winning numbers.

The way I get the spectators on stage is by bouncing the balloon around the audience and stop it 3 times. Each spectator gives me one number between 0 & 9 (for the room key tag) and two numbers between 1 & 80 (for the Keno ticket.) When they bring the balloon up on stage, I have them shake to the balloon that they have had the whole time to confirm there is something inside. That "something inside" ends up being the Keno ticket that has the winning numbers stamped on it.

So far the routine has killed. The other thing I added was that the key tag, Keno ticket and casino chip all match the same casino.

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Just a random thought...

I live in California. A few weeks ago I bought one of those lottery scratcher cards for a dollar.

It ended up being a winning card, so I returned to the store and got a ten spot. The way they verified the card was not by looking at the scratched off area, but by scanning a bar code on the back of the card.

Reading this thread gave me the idea that maybe you can buy a scratcher ticket and have it scanned without disturbing the card. After buying enough cards, you would have some winners. Odds are 1 in 5 I think.

With an unused winning card you could put together a bank nite routine, lottery routine, or anything.

I will have to visit the store tomorrow and find out if this can be done. Does anyone here know???

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The routine referred to above is called 'Lotto Luck' and is a perfect response to the question of why aren't you rich if you can predict the lottery. My answer, "I can't predict the lottery, but I've been practicing." The routine goes from there where I predict one number of the six random digits that are selected. I realise this may not make sense in a bare bones description like this, but believe me, it makes perfect sense in the performance context and kills. I guarantee you if you saw this performed and did not know how it was accomplished, there's no possible explanation. I've taught this in my lectures for years and it's always been a hit with the guys, and always plays well with the lay crowd.

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Interestings ideas Mike, very interesting...

If it work tell us please, I will try myself, if you gave me permission to use it.

Read you soon.

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Lee Earle has one on his Syzygy's Best vol. 1 video as well as somewhere in vol. 1 of the Newsletter. I don't have it in front of me so I don't remember who the creator is, but it is very good and fairly easy!
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Mike, awesome idea!
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Guys,

I don't know how it works where you are but, here there is a number on the front of the ticket that has to be scratched off as well as the bar code being scanned for the ticket to be verified -- otherwise you could just photocopy the bar code and get paid off. The number on the front combined with the bar code on the back verify that it is a real ticket as there is only one ticket issued with each particular combination! And being that there are like 3 or 4 companies that handle this in the USA, chances are it is the same where you are -- you need to check it out.

Good Luck though and I hope it works for you!
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I did the lottery prediction many years ago on TV.
Some people asked why don't I do it every week. I have many answers, but this is not important.
What is important is your PR and the many shows you are going to do and the money you are going to make just because you are famous.
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