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Scott Xavier
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Once they are scanned, they are useless. The computer removes them from the database, I always thought.
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I agree that the ticket maybe not worth anything after scanned...

But, who cares? We know this, not the rest of the audience. Imagine you do your routine on stage, they find the correct ticket, they win, they keep the ticket.

People will like the fact that you gave him the winning ticket (imagine it's for $50). They keep the ticket and they will try to change it later. If it doesn't work at that time, you have nothing to do with it; it's too late and also it's not your fault if the ticket is not good. You got your routine and impact.

I hope I am clear, but I think the idea is still very interesting. Only a minor point to cover, and this is done easily, I think.


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Lior, Please don't call me a jerk. I was just asking how people build this into their routines. I tried to make it clear in my post that I wasn't 'rubbishing' lottery effects - just trying to get some kind of idea of where they sit in peoples acts. I've always believed that magic should be believable (although impossible) - and I was intrigued by the idea of somebody presenting the blatantly unbelievable. I didn't mean to offend (or come across as a jerk).
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Okay I did a little investigating at the local quicky-mart...

A store can scan a scratcher ticket that has not been "scratched" and they can tell you if it is a winner or not. But it order to get the ticket back, you can't collect the winnings. Also, it may take some effort to get the scanned ticket back from the clerk, but it can be done.

So you can do a bank nite routine with legit scratcher cards. A lot of effort and cash needs to go into the method, but I think it is worth it.

Also, since the scanned card is no longer good, you could give the bank nite winner the cash on the spot to save them a trip to the store. That way the winner does not turn it into the store and get

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I didn't call you a jerk.
It isn't you.
It is the for the person from the general public.
Sorry again
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Anthony Owen has a fantastic lottery routine which solves all problems in his Some Tricks Books.

You say you brought a lottery ticket, you then get the audience to call six numbers out and it is those numbers that match them on the ticket...fantastic trick indeed. Perfect as you can't predict the lottery but can predict/influence your audience.
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the owen book is great - it also have a cute approach to any card at any number...
also not so expensive.
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Recently, in my area there has beena limited number of an effect sold that the dealer claims he got from Holland. It is combined with a card effect in which numbers are called out at random by spectators, and the cards at those positions in the deck are used. The final kicker is that the magician gives an audience member a scratch of ticket, and when scratched, reveals the very same numbers that the audience freely called out.

Now, I did not actually see this effect done, it was described to me by someone who did see ti done. They claim the audience had a free choice of numbers to call out (No Forces) and the scratch off ticker is fully examinable afterwards and the numbers do NOT come off, that they are typed/printed in, not handwritten.

Anybody know what this is called?
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The small book "Some Tricks" by Anthony Owen (producer of Derren Brown's TV shows) has exactly this effect, called Natural Lottery. Obtainable here
It's a bit fiddly to make up but could be very effective.
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Could someone describe the Copperfield lottery effect please.
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I'd check out Larry Becker's Sum Total (he has several versions in Stunner's Plus). His premise is one involving a lottery number.
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The lottery trick sold by Magic Dream is really good. The scratchcard ending blows people away but the lead up to it is very poor. Anyone familiar with the one ahead principle will work out a better handling very quickly.
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The lotto prediction done by coppefield was sold by a portuguese magician called luis de matos. But there were other that have done this effect. even I do this effect sometimes, but in a small version(like showcase), but very misterious.

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