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Can anyone tell me if this is a good book to start with?
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Yes.
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Well I buy it, thanks for your clear answer Smile
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You're welcome, and you won't be disappointed.
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For the sheer volume of knowledge the book contains at the low price, you simply can't go wrong.
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There's loads of good stuff in it, but it's a bit old-fashioned. None of the Sands/Tarbary/Sanders sorts of things, for example. And (I am fairly sure we have discussed this before) it doesn't have Professor's Nightmare. On the other hand, there are many things that everyone has probably forgotten.
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But worth studying just to see what's gone on before. And Stewart James, well, what more can you say?

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Any other books that you guys can recommend?
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If you are into more rope magic or just looking for a wealth of martial… you can’t go wrong with the Tarbell books. As Tabman said “worth studying just to see what's gone on before.”

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Karl Fulves Self-Working Rope Magic has some surprisingly good stuff --- for about $5.

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If you are looking for something comprehensive I think that in this instance I wouldn't recommend a book but the Daryl 3 vol DVD set.
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On 2009-10-23 11:13, rjenkins wrote:
If you are looking for something comprehensive I think that in this instance I wouldn't recommend a book but the Daryl 3 vol DVD set.


Curious if you ever read Stewart James or the other books recommended? They are pretty comprehensive.

My impromptu rope routine is entirely out of James.
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Yep... This is one of the finest, most comprehensive books on rope magic you'll find (assuming that you are referring to the complete edition, published by Squash... http://www.squashpublishing.com/product_info.php?products_id=231&osCsid=96f26f34e6b0ce8cb3581c8ceda4c046).

Another routine worth examining is Francis Tabary's, but it is becoming increasingly difficult to find a copy of the print edition, so you may have to settle for the video.
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ERT is a very good resource, but I would not *necessarily* tell someone to "start" with it.

Depending on your interest, ability of creating routines, and certainly your cost limitations.

- for a quick inexpensive exposure to rope magic, $10 - Fulves Self-working Rope is very good.

- The Tarbel series is very good for many effects, and certainly has a good selection of rope tricks - mainly cut and restored, but also penetrations and some escapes (I can't understand why someone serious about magic wouldn't have a copy! but, please, I'm not trying to start a fight Smile)

- Wilson's Complete course is great, and has a good amount of material to start doing rope tricks

- Daryl's 3-dvd series is well produced, has a ton of stuff, mainly individual effects, but one of the volumes has a nice routine of his. These are rather expensive, but there are a few things that I think it really helps to see performed/taught (e.g. the Kellar tie)

- If you really want a DVD, but don't want to spend too much, there are some relatively inexpensive ones out there, like Royal Magic's, or Spellbinder's site sells a dvd with a good mix.

- on the other extreme, if you are looking for a "quick fix", there are individual routines that are very commercial, and the most expensive (per trick): Haydn's Mongolian Pop Knot, Fiber Optics (which a series of moves that can be added or deleted from your routine), and many others. These are a quick way to start a rope routine in your show, but not how to develop a more general understanding of what can be done with rope.

There is a site that lists table's of contents of many books/dvds, (e.g. Fulves)

http://magicref.tripod.com/books.htm

but it doesn't have the new version of Jame's work (I think just the old volume 1), but if interested, contact me for a table of contents that I've compiled.

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John, thank you for your great reply. I just bought the first volume of the Tarbell series. So that will be a pleasure to read and learn from.

I contacted the magicshop and he just sold the ERT,
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The 8 volulme series is good, but expensive. There are electronic copies being sold for much less, but you should realize that they are not identical to the bound volumes.

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Lencano77,

I sent you information about the Encyclopedia of Rope Tricks by Steward James that you requested. Please check your PM's.
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Nonvpro, Thank you I checked it,

John, they maybe expensive, but I think is worth the knowlegde and I love books,
The list you posted is great, I've seen a lot of books that I want to read and study some day.

Thanks again, consider my question answered.
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On 2009-10-27 06:35, Lencano77 wrote:
Nonvpro, Thank you I checked it,

John, they maybe expensive, but I think is worth the knowlegde and I love books,
The list you posted is great, I've seen a lot of books that I want to read and study some day.

Thanks again, consider my question answered.


I like books too. I can so easily pick one off the shelf and read it anywhere in the house, comment in it.. Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to discourage you from getting ERT, just trying to help you understand the lay of the land, and even w/ERT, I think you would still enjoy Fulves' book - it has some interesting gems that I don't recall seeing in ERT (e.g. with one end of string tied around your wrist, and the other end tied to anything else, you can get a *finger* ring onto the string. Cooooolll)

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John, I never felt discouraged, I thought your advice was very useful and I'll defenitly buy the Fulves book and I was talking about the expensive Tarbell Books.
The list you posted is very useful, I was looking for documentation about the Dancing Cane and I found something from Lewis Ganson, even the place where I can buy it, so that is great.

But the trick you are talking about sounds really cool (now I really want that book)

Thanks again,
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