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Stefan O.
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Which template? There are just pdf documents and these can´t be changed so easy. You have to create them new if you want to present them in german for example. And this isn´t done in 5 minutes because of the amount of documents.
The rest is no problem to present it in another language.


Thorsten is right, I bought it based on Kranzo's words but found that you will need to completely make them up yourself.

What I find misleading in the ad is the statement that the menu is real. Well, it certainly is not and it isn't a menu from your local Chinese restaurant.

I am sorry, but I am not as happy with the effect as other buyers appear to be. It certainly is an interesting idea, no doubt, but not as easily tranferred to other languages as Kranzo said.

On the other hand.... I just got an idea Smile I will let you know how it works out.

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Yes, I'm sorry if the ad copy was mis-leading. I meant it is really printed and the menu is real. In other words its not a nail writer or a miscall etc.

No this is not a menu from Moy Kong down the street from me. But that wouldn't work well for you anyway. I believe this is a real place in the U.K. that Keith based in on.

Please excuse me if this sounds rude but......who the heck cares? : )

It does however look as real as can be. How do you prove its fake?

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On 2009-10-25 15:29, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry if the ad copy was mis-leading.
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Please excuse me if this sounds rude but......who the heck cares? : )

Kranzo


Your customer cares nathan - - - your customer. You admit the ad's not correct and then you challenge a customer who's given you money in trust?
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On 2009-10-25 15:40, aukt wrote:
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On 2009-10-25 15:29, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry if the ad copy was mis-leading.
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Please excuse me if this sounds rude but......who the heck cares? : )

Kranzo


The Ad does not state from your local restaurant. It is a legitimate menu and if your local restaurant has the same identical menu, fine. Here we go again with technicalities that really has nothing to do with anything. A real menu, no forces, real time, and no fluff. GOOD STUFF!!!!

Steve

Your customer cares nathan - - - your customer. You admit the ad's not correct and then you challenge a customer who's given you money in trust?
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It is GOOD STUFF - sorry if my words suggested anything else - I had simply hoped the PDFs would have been easier to translate and print for my own language.

The method itself is ingenious and I really like it.

as I said in my last post: I just got an idea as far as a German version is concerned and I willlet you know if it works out as expected.

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On 2009-10-25 15:29, Nathan Kranzo wrote:
Yes, I'm sorry if the ad copy was mis-leading.
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Please excuse me if this sounds rude but......who the heck cares? : )

Kranzo


Your customer cares nathan - - - your customer. You admit the ad's not correct and then you challenge a customer who's given you money in trust?




LOL!

The ad is correct. If the gentleman in question would like a refund he can contact me. We have great customer service. that's not an issue.

I still say. Who the heck cares? Not me...and I can't imagine anyone else would. that's just my opinion from professional experience....but I could be wrong. : )

Any problems with the method, menu location, confusing patter, gripes, complaints, compliments, donations and love letters can be sent to me via PM or at nathankranzo@gmail.com

Sorry for the silly distraction. Back to discussion.

I know a couple of pros who love this and are using it already! Paul Kozak was actually the first to purchase it and he is planning on putting it in his Atlantic City show! Sorry if that was a secret Paul. : )


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There has been some confusion. It was mentioned that the menu could not be "taken home" with the spectator. They can examine the page but not keep it.

This became misunderstood as "its not a real menu". I believe this is a real place in the U.K. but Keith is away performing on a cruise so I can't ask him at the moment. But I'd like to point out that it doesn't matter. The menu is in and out of the performance so quickly is just a means to an end. You aren't going to get into a long winded discussion about the corporate logo of the restaurant etc.

But for those who are interested IT DOES look VERY Authentic. Just watch the video and tell me what you think. It looks like your average take out menu. They are a dime a dozen. Watch the clip again and decide for yourself.

http://kranzomagic.myshopify.com/product......h-fields

On that page there is also a sample picture of the Menu included!!!!

I would just maybe ad a little soy sauce stain to it etc.

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Used this again last night at my show at porter's neck country club, in wilmington nc, killed, no one questioned anything they were too busy laughing and being amazed,to be truthful I did have a small issue when printing props, but went back and figured that out with printer properties,,,,, best to all, I do like this a lot
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The menu in the promo (look at the close up shot towards the end) has a different look than what you get in this package.

The one in the promo has an "excel spreadsheet" kind of look to it, and that was probably the one Mr Fields was using as his own before releasing the effect.

The menu in the package has a more authentic feel, and as Nathan pointed out above, on the link he posted, along with the clip is a small shot of the menu.

I like the "soy stain" idea!
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LMAO. I didn't notice! : )

Yeah....what Don Theo III said!!!

Thanks DT3

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I like this!! Of course they can't take the menu home. Com'n, there are some sneaky things how else can something like this work. Watch the demo vid. It's not a REAL menu. Looks like one. What's the difference. Geez.

This is a great routine well worth the cashola. It's not a one trick pony etc. it's a complete routine that you can make last for minutes if you desire.

Get it!! I did!

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Hi John,

Thanks so much for taking the time to give your honest feedback. We know you are a working performer so that means a lot.

Hope you get tons of mileage out of this!!!

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Nate,

I did sweet and sour the other night and that is two shows in a row it has rocked! It is a cool feeling when they come to you after the show and tell you they are blown away.

Thanks to you and Keith,

Mark
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Just ordered & looking forward to getting it!

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Hi Mark,

Glad to hear you are having success with this. We now have a German version in the works and Keith has a couple of other things up his sleeve for the future as well....

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Earlier in the thread it's mentioned this is not a force. The demo shows the choice of Sweet and Sour Chicken. The name of the effect is Sweet and Sour Prediction.

Just so I am clear here, my audience can say "Beef Subgum Chowmein" and this will work?
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Earlier in the thread it's mentioned this is not a force. The demo shows the choice of Sweet and Sour Chicken. The name of the effect is Sweet and Sour Prediction.

Just so I am clear here, my audience can say "Beef Subgum Chowmein" and this will work?
Thanks,
-David
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On 2009-11-11 13:35, drswoboda wrote:
Earlier in the thread it's mentioned this is not a force. The demo shows the choice of Sweet and Sour Chicken. The name of the effect is Sweet and Sour Prediction.

Just so I am clear here, my audience can say "Beef Subgum Chowmein" and this will work?
Thanks,
-David


It's not a force. They can say "chewed up and spit out dog" you will be able to handle it.

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On 2009-11-11 15:32, johncesta wrote:
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On 2009-11-11 13:35, drswoboda wrote:
Earlier in the thread it's mentioned this is not a force. The demo shows the choice of Sweet and Sour Chicken. The name of the effect is Sweet and Sour Prediction.

Just so I am clear here, my audience can say "Beef Subgum Chowmein" and this will work?
Thanks,
-David


They can say "chewed up and spit out dog" you will be able to handle it.

j


To be honest, this could be a little bit misleading. Smile
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That looks great gents. Well done. I love the ol' barcode gag (but I always wished it went somewhere). ...this takes that whole "gag" thing and moves it to a whole new level. This makes sense and finishes well; I loved the clip.


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Sean
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