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robvh
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I don't know if this idea has appeared previously but I was able to greatly increase the number of possibilities (and hence the impact of the effect) without making my job any more difficult. The heads & tails prediction has 8 outs which are easy enough to keep track of using the binary system. A 1 in 8 chance wasn't impressive enough for my purposes though.

My solution, instead of using 3 coins, was to use 5 coins of different denominations. The denominations are used to order the coins from penny to dollar. I explain how correctly predicting the number of heads and tails is very difficult but predicting them in the exact order is far more improbable. Instead of 1 in 8 (2*2*2), the odds become 1 in 32 (2*2*2*2*2). It's up to you whether to reveal that or leave it up to their imagination. They may well think the odds are even worse.

Naturally, I don't want to keep track of 32 outs but I don't have to... because the last two coins are double-headed and double-tailed! I simply modified the original 8 outs to end with the same HT combination (e.g. HHT becomes HHTHT and TTT becomes TTTHT). Easy.

Note 1: You don't have to use different denominations of coins. You could use anything you want and simply disregard the first H and T you hear (assuming you're using 1 DH and 1 DT).

Note 2: You don't have to stop at 5 coins. I think you get diminishing returns though.
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Hi all,

This is more like a request than an idea. Since this app is so sincere & simple. After I read my spec mind with it. I wish I can reverse the whole thing. The spec write any number and put my phone down (screen on bottom) and I can tell what the number is
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You could have the spectators play tic-tac-toe, then predict who will win. Also make tie a option.
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Hi robvh,

I really really like using double-headed and double-tailed coins.

Mixing methods is THE BEST!!

cheers,
G Ro
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I made a preset that lets me draw 3 coins, and dump them out of the phone for a 3-fly routine. After that they go back in the phone one at a time.
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I've been trying to come up with a routine using iForce and playing cards. My thought was to start with four cards out on the table and have a spectator select one card. Next add four more cards to make it more challenging. Conclude by adding 4 more cards and have 4 separate outs to use outside of iForce. I have one of those cards set up as my lock screen, one card drawn by me saved in the Doodle app (the weakest reveal, in my opinion), and using the Card2Phone app I could pull either of the last tunes out of the phone. I haven't tried this out yet, but was wondering if anyone thought this would be effective or had any better ideas for revealing more than 8 items with the phone.

I'd love to be able to have Siri respond to a voice command to name the selected card and think this is doable, but I'd have to jailbreak my phone and get into some minor coding to do this. I'm not sure it's worth the bother, but it would be fun to be able to have customized responses from Siri that could be used in a routine.

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I want to share with you my use of iforce.
I know that some ideas are in this post, but I am proud of how I do it, and I hope you enjoy it.
First choice ( any coin ) . I am from Spain and I use euros, it is very easy, only 8 coins.
Second choice ( 3 spectators choice face or tail using their own coin) . Only 8 combination again, easy too. But here you can use some tricks.
- You can use a double face coin for you(magician) , and now it is a 4 choices. You don´t really need a double face coin because the layman are so concentrated in their own coin that never look at you. People are thinking in how are you going to know which coin they have , but you are going to work with face or tails this time .

- And now my favorite trick . When I discover iforce I was worried about the phone, let me explain , people always think that the phone can do everything (voice recognition…), that is why I decided to move away the trick from the phone. I put a paper with the result of 4 coins in my pockets(only 3 because I know mine) . 8 combination of tails and faces = 8 pockets. 4 in my trousers (front , back ,right and left) , 4 in my jacket. And in iforce I write “look in my front right trousers pocket ( for example)”. Without moving your hands , layman can take the paper from your pocket and read it at loud.
This combination of paper and phone destroy any possibility. And I love it, it is simply magic with a good pattern. Paper destroy the phone voice recognition, and phone destroy the possibility of sleight of hand or the possibility of more papers. ( to put the paper in the pocket during the trick ).
In the paper I write that more and less:
Hello everyone, I write this note trying to demonstrate that I know something before it happens.
To know that you are going to choose a coin it is obvious , but to know that when you tossed it , you have get xxxxx is not a coincidence.
To know that the second time you have get xxxxx is more than pure chance.
Sherlock Holmes used to say “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” It is the perfect definition of magic to me. In any case the third time you have get xxxxx in your coin.

PD: I love Sherlock Holmes, what can I say.
PPD: I always use a print paper.
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On May 23, 2014, konstant wrote:
I want to share with you my use of iforce.
I know that some ideas are in this post, but I am proud of how I do it, and I hope you enjoy it.
First choice ( any coin ) . I am from Spain and I use euros, it is very easy, only 8 coins.
Second choice ( 3 spectators choice face or tail using their own coin) . Only 8 combination again, easy too. But here you can use some tricks.
- You can use a double face coin for you(magician) , and now it is a 4 choices. You don´t really need a double face coin because the layman are so concentrated in their own coin that never look at you. People are thinking in how are you going to know which coin they have , but you are going to work with face or tails this time .

- And now my favorite trick . When I discover iforce I was worried about the phone, let me explain , people always think that the phone can do everything (voice recognition…), that is why I decided to move away the trick from the phone. I put a paper with the result of 4 coins in my pockets(only 3 because I know mine) . 8 combination of tails and faces = 8 pockets. 4 in my trousers (front , back ,right and left) , 4 in my jacket. And in iforce I write “look in my front right trousers pocket ( for example)”. Without moving your hands , layman can take the paper from your pocket and read it at loud.
This combination of paper and phone destroy any possibility. And I love it, it is simply magic with a good pattern. Paper destroy the phone voice recognition, and phone destroy the possibility of sleight of hand or the possibility of more papers. ( to put the paper in the pocket during the trick ).
In the paper I write that more and less:
Hello everyone, I write this note trying to demonstrate that I know something before it happens.
To know that you are going to choose a coin it is obvious , but to know that when you tossed it , you have get xxxxx is not a coincidence.
To know that the second time you have get xxxxx is more than pure chance.
Sherlock Holmes used to say “Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” It is the perfect definition of magic to me. In any case the third time you have get xxxxx in your coin.

PD: I love Sherlock Holmes, what can I say.
PPD: I always use a print paper.


AWESOME!!!
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See iForce on this weeks TNT episode!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn_ceeTnv8U
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I have a preset of the queens, so I use the first part of inferno by Joshua jay, but use iforce for the reveal.







On a side note, THIS IS MY 200th POST! Smile Smile Smile
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I use iForce to do Matt Mello's Handy Prediction. It's so easy, I can concentrate fully on the performance. I just say writing on my phone are better than writing on a paper. Go green, right?
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Its a great magic app. I bought both versions. for android and ipad.
it seems that the handy face up options (springboard methodes) in the android version are missing.
i cant find them. will there be an update soon for android?

my version of iforce is a bartrick. I use different kinds of drinks or beers.

regards markus
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On Jul 13, 2014, maxchen wrote:
Its a great magic app. I bought both versions. for android and ipad.
it seems that the handy face up options (springboard methodes) in the android version are missing.
i cant find them. will there be an update soon for android?

my version of iforce is a bartrick. I use different kinds of drinks or beers.

regards markus


No springboard methods on Android because most Android phones can't do screenshots without rooting. You can however hit the home button with iForce running in the background. And flip the phone and let them touch the doodle app icon to open it up and find the written prediction.
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Hi ZachDavenport,

I've been using the Jacks and Kings (8 outs) with Inferno by Joshua Jay.
I have drawn these 8 cards with the corners slightly burnt.

At the end I have the spectator whisper the card in my ear (no voice recognition).

As Gordon just said, the biggest advantage of iForce on Android is since Android is a true multi-tasking OS, once you select a preset, just press the home key.
This will take you back to the home screen of Android, but iForce will still be running in the background.

Put the phone face down, do the move, and ask your spectator to launch the app themselves.
It looks like they are truly launching the app, because they ARE . . . (no fake screens).

cheers,
G Ro
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I've been doing this for a few months now and for some reason really like this subtlety: using a leather flip case to hide the screen when its face down. With the case closed it really drills in the fact that you don't touch the phone until the end and need to physically open the case to show the prediction.
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I came up with a pretty amazing use for iforce That uses something from Daniel Garcia. Here is a video where he reveals it (don't worry this is not pirated or anything): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIJkPAFjcH4
Use the one with 2 objects on the list. Make the objects colors, and the force colors green and blue. Then make a preset that has a beach picture, one that has a picture of a park, one that just has blue scribbles, and one that has green scribbles. To perform it use the list to force the color, and tell them to imagine a landscape that has a lot of there color. Tell them you will draw what they are thinking, and set up the preset on iforce. Most people will say beach or park in which case you reveal the beach or park, but if not just reveal the scribbles of their color. I am going to add more landscapes after I perform it for a while, so I can see what the other common choices are.
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Dear Greg,

How did you draw a burnt card, is just a scribble or we can add 8 photos instead of drawing.

And also, we have customised many outs for iforce but if I am changing my mobile again I have to do the work from scratch. Any possibility to backup them
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Hi ZachDavenport,
I really like the idea of mixing Danny Garcia's clever notepad trick with iForce.

Hi ursmagicbalu,
Yes, I just drew a burnt card.

At the present time, there's no way for you to backup your drawings. We are looking into cloud integration for an upcoming version of iForce.
This way all of your presets will be automatically saved to your cloud account.

cheers,
Greg
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That's a great update Greg
“It’s not what you do that matters, or even how you do it;
it’s what the spectators perceive you as doing that matters.
That’s the MAGIC they’ll remember.”
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I use 2 of my own:

I get the spectator to hold their index finger up and tell them that at the count of 3, I'd like them to point to, or touch, a part of their face.
The 8 outs are:
1. Forehead
2. Eyebrow
3. Eye
4. Nose
5. Mouth (Which is general for lips, tongue, teeth if they point to those. Great for being "just off")
6. Chin
7. Cheek
8. Ear
I do it in that order as it's working top down for the first 6, then cheek is closest to chin (6) and ear would be last.
I like to stress "FACE" and not "head" as they could point to the top of their head which could be "hair" or "head" which I don't have outs for.

The other way I use it is as an additional kicker to Card Shark's Get Sharky.
I start off with "writing" a prediction in doodle, have them pick a card, reveal the prediction was right on the phone, then go into the whole "card isn't in the deck anymore and is now in my pocket".
Sorry, I don't think I should explain more due to fear of revealing the method but if you have Get Sharky, you'll know what I mean. ;-)
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