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msmaster Special user 522 Posts 
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But King, the point is: Are you really defending Paul Harris for advertising and preselling a trick before it's ready to bring to market?
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Review King Eternal Order 14446 Posts
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Nope. I only pointed out that folks didn't have to pre-order and if they did and where unhappy, they are offering refunds. Many people seemed upset about it all and they haven't even pre-ordered.
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Gilgamesh_The_Librarian Elite user 408 Posts
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This "if you're not happy with the pre-order you can get a refund" argument seems to miss the point.
For me to be happy with my pre-order, or even unhappy with it, I need to have a set of expectations to measure my happiness against. So I pre-order this today - what do I measure my happiness against - a delivery date would be good ---do we know it---not really---well why not use something else as an indicator of the goodness and timeliness of the product winging my way --ah yes the demo that has been alluded to in the ad since day one but is still in editing ---thats not a good sign is it.( James Cameron took 10 years to film his walking blue man,PH may beat that record) So people are unhappy because they are being encouraged to pre-order but the frustrating thing is that the only guarantee that a pre-order gives anyone is a signed box when the little bloke eventually turns up - that's going to raise a few hackles with most right thinking folk. |
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Chance Wolf Inner circle 2425 Posts
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Man...this is like watching the Congress and Senate hash out the Health care Bill on C Span!
Creator of Wacky Wolf Productions & Fine Collectibles
A DECADE of building Magic and we're just getting started! http://www.wolfsmagic.com |
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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There is often much work between building a "proof of concept" item, a working reliable item that one can test and refine in realistic situations, what one finds out is actually robust and effective and then what can be produced in quantity and taken to market.
Also, we're having some unnecessary personal reputation stuff happening in this larger dialog. It would make us look more focused if we stopped conflating the person Paul Harris and those who are bringing products to market under the brand which uses his name. Thanks, Chef Boy are dese coins cold today
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MaxfieldsMagic Inner circle Instead of practicing, I made 3009 Posts
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So who won that "name Little Man" contest that ran awhile back? A new name would give us something to discuss for a page or two.
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts
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Clayton Walker is,
the name I'd like to submitt, I hope that I win!
"If you're going to walk in the rain, don't complain about getting wet!"
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FredNarlo Loyal user Been waiting for John Dough for the last 282 Posts
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Made of clay he is,
Mysterious man he is, Make haste! Release him! |
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RooMan Special user Texas 704 Posts
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On 2009-12-11 19:14, mandarin wrote: HAHAHAHAHA! Great! |
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JPK Loyal user 272 Posts
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Good morning MaxfieldsMagic
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On 2009-12-11 20:48, MaxfieldsMagic wrote: I don't believe it's been announced yet. I've checked the PHP website and it hasn't been mentioned.
John Kardel
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SeanScottMagic Veteran user 325 Posts
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I am a fan of Paul. He is a definately a genius artist. It might be a good thing if Paul himself could post occasionally.
http://WWW.THEARTOFSEANSCOTT.COM
AVAILABLE EFFECTS: ROAMING RISE RENDER MODOSU FACTORY LINE BANDARIZUMU KI MXL |
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mumford Special user 652 Posts
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Paul posts here by proxy, PHSIS.
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magicFreak2 Inner circle 1220 Posts
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On 2009-11-11 18:05, Vorezo wrote: That is correct. Quote:
On 2009-11-12 17:21, Vorezo wrote: As am I. If it meets the hype, Paul H. should have no problem whatsoever providing us with a demo. Otherwise I can't believe that its not a pipe dream. Reminds me of another effect... |
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts
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According to PHSIS's last post, this rough demo apparently was almost finished about a week ago. I assume we should be seeing it any day now.
"If you're going to walk in the rain, don't complain about getting wet!"
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts
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Eleven pages so far and it hasn't devolved to an OJ Simpson thread. I was under the impression that every thread, given enough time, eventually turns to OJ.
Ahhh...my bad, It did, I just didn't see the correlation. OJ walked. Kevin
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
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Kevinr Inner circle 1854 Posts
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I think 11 pages worth of junk shows two things...
1) We don't have enough work so we all find ourselves blabbing on Magic Café about nothing (man were losers) 2) Paul H. your a genuis! I wouldn't put out a demo till 2011 and really get everyone going. Its like tickle me elmo here.. |
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Dan Bernier Inner circle Canada 2298 Posts
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On 2009-12-12 14:17, Kevinr wrote: LOL You forgot the third thing though. 3) Everyone is so excited about the concept and idea that our frustrations about the lack of a demo is keeping us from investing into something that we want so bad that we are ticked at the style of marketing that is being presented to us to get us to invest into something that to our eyes and knowledge doesn't exist yet. (should I have put a comma in there somewhere? lol )
"If you're going to walk in the rain, don't complain about getting wet!"
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edh Inner circle 4698 Posts
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A period here and there would have been nice.
Magic is a vanishing art.
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FredNarlo Loyal user Been waiting for John Dough for the last 282 Posts
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We wait till the day,
Little Man be on your way! We cry if not soon |
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SeanScottMagic Veteran user 325 Posts
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Proxy might leave a little to be desired, as we're seeing in these 11 pages.
http://WWW.THEARTOFSEANSCOTT.COM
AVAILABLE EFFECTS: ROAMING RISE RENDER MODOSU FACTORY LINE BANDARIZUMU KI MXL |
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