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John Pilotzi
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I prefered him in the old days. These days he seems like he wants to create/sell as much as possible in the quickest time possible. It's a bit like Paul Harris... IMHO. JP
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I only have Sankeytized vol. II (but I've been out of magic for 10 years). It is my favorite video, not necessarily because of the tricks shown (though there are many great ones), but by his engaging presentations of the technical aspects of the technique.

Sankey is never boring without seeming to try too hard. I recently ordered his three "Best Of" DVDs, and I can't imagine being disappointed with them. I don't have any first hand knowledge of his copious filler stuff, but I've read it enough places to believe it is a real problem. Hopefully he will pull the lame stuff out of print and distill his offerings to just the best stuff.

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I gotta agree with most of you. He has produced some great effects, but now his magic is like a production line in a factory. A bit hit and miss, and the over hype puts me off from even looking at his stuff that much. Having said that most magicians have hit and miss days, and you can't take away his great creative mind.

I guess I'll keep my ear to the ground, for when he finally releases another great gem.
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The early books by Richard Kaufman, 100% Sankey, and Sankey Panky contain many, if not most, of Jay Sankey's great magic ideas. It's amazing how many magic ideas he's either discovered or invented. He's definitely been a creative force in magic.

I don't have Sankey Unleashed yet, but given that the author is Jon Racherbaumer, I'm sure that it's a great book too.

Some ideas in Paul Harris's Art Of Astonishment series are also from Jay Sankey.


If you've only seen him on video, you probably have no idea what it's like to see Jay Sankey perform live. He's better than a rock concert. When I saw him, he killed.

I can certainly recommend many things he's put out, Paperclipped and Leaving Home come to mind.

My favorite video by him is Paperclipped. (I purchased that even though it's in 100% Sankey, the guy has a house and family now, and he deserves twice what I paid for that anyway). There's been a lot written about Paperclipped.

My second favorite DVD is named "45". It's probably not for everyone, it's a collection of 45 quick close-up effects, sleights, and flourishes. These are all good for impromptu situations. He never speaks on the DVD, it's all done with background music, even the teaching.
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He's an above average magician who's a good marketer
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On 2009-12-19 23:41, amedica wrote:
He's an above average magician who's a good marketer

I consider him one of the best performers to layman. Front Row and his L&L tapes have my favorite performance sections,up there with Tommy Wonder, L.Green,Ortiz and others.

For magicians - his late creations are average at best, his old stuff are great. For layman he's one of the best I've watched.
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He has inspired me to take chances, turn the box inside out, and play with things until their secrets slip out of the corners. His work is about ideas that get your own ideas flowing IMO.
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On 2009-12-19 23:41, amedica wrote:
He's an above average magician who's a good marketer

I consider him one of the best performers to layman. Front Row and his L&L tapes have my favorite performance sections,up there with Tommy Wonder, L.Green,Ortiz and others.

For magicians - his late creations are average at best, his old stuff are great. For layman he's one of the best I've watched.


I do get the sense from the videos where he interacts with audiences that they like him a lot. Does he perform these days?
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Sankey is GREAT! And not just from card effects. My favorite card effect of his is "cardboard contortionist" (Sankey-tized II); but he has ingenious takes on standard magic effects. He does a spongeball routine about "earplugs" (after all, what ARE spongeballs?). He does a ring through a spoon routine which includes some spoon bending in there (on an L&L dvd).
It seems most of the posts here complain about his uneven marketing. I don't know what to say about this. (I love the Sankey-tized dvds) But IMHO, he's GREAT!
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He's one of the "Greats"... Does have some junk, but most all do... I have seen some magicians put so called "junk" out there and I found a way to make the junk look great... Keep the ideas flowing Jay... Osterlind has a folded bill routine that is lacking a great ending, but I came up with one... I still have yet to share it with him... he has a lot of good ideas as well...
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I've been to a handful of Jay's lectures and they are some of the most entertaining out there, if not a little strange. His earliest tapes were put out by US Toy and were quite good. I will agree that the past bunch of years the material released wasn't his best, but he's given us a lot of great effects.
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He's one of the "Greats"... Does have some junk, but most all do... I have seen some magicians put so called "junk" out there and I found a way to make the junk look great... Keep the ideas flowing Jay... Osterlind has a folded bill routine that is lacking a great ending, but I came up with one... I still have yet to share it with him... he has a lot of good ideas as well...


Osterlind is a god! He's more my style of presenter as well (not a gushy person)
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On 2009-12-19 23:41, amedica wrote:
He's an above average magician who's a good marketer


This may be a matter of opinion, but Jay Sankey is one of the greatest thinkers/magi of our time.
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Anyone remember reading his stuff in Richard'd Almanac and being awed by his creativity?
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On 2009-12-20 23:25, lynnef wrote:
Sankey is GREAT! And not just from card effects. My favorite card effect of his is "cardboard contortionist" (Sankey-tized II); but he has ingenious takes on standard magic effects. He does a spongeball routine about "earplugs" (after all, what ARE spongeballs?). He does a ring through a spoon routine which includes some spoon bending in there (on an L&L dvd).
It seems most of the posts here complain about his uneven marketing. I don't know what to say about this. (I love the Sankey-tized dvds) But IMHO, he's GREAT!


After chiming in that I was sure I wouldn't be disappointed with his "Best Of" dvds, I just got them and I thought they were good, not great.

Best Of included three coin handing routines that were essentially variations on Mexican Jumping Coins (including the original). He did an unconvincing false take in one routine that was very atypical for him. He seemed to be seriously hopped up on cold meds for most of the video. One of my favorite effects was demoed but not instructed (Leaving Home).

Finally, he didn't give detail on certain moves, whereas on Sankey-tized, he always performed tricky stuff in psuedo-slowmo.

All in all, he seemed bored with some of his own tricks (which he probably is, having done them daily for 10+ years, but it shouldn't come across in the video). He just doesn't seem sincere and proud of his creations like 10-12 years ago.

I don't think any of this diminish him as a creator and magician, but as a teacher he is off the pedestal I used to have him on.

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Watch Sankey's Revolutionary Card Magic again. The number of creative plots in those 2 discs is unbelievable. He takes old stuff and breaths new life into them.
If you performed ONLY Sankey material you would be considered a great magician.

BTW a solid performer can make 99 look like a miracle!

Go Jay Go
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Don't know how good jay is but he is one of the best creators in magic today
Come check out my magic.

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I am a big Sankey fan. He is extremely creative and I also find that he does amazing magic with relatively simple slight of hand. I would agree that much of his latest material is a bit of rehash of some older stuff. However, there is so much high quality material over the past 20 years I don't see how anyone could complain. Sankeytized I & II, Sankey's Greatest Hits, Front Row Sankey, Hemispheres and 22 Blows to the head are all excellent DVDs with a ton of material in all of them that is well worth the price of admission.
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I went from like to dislike to respect. The dislike was based on the fact that as more products came out, I saw a lot of what I thought were rehashed ideas, but the more I watched beyond that, the more I realized just how much he's basically offered himself up as somebody to be studied as a blueprint for thinking creatively. I've considered trying to build an entire performing character around a simple, commonly-known prop, and the work this guy has done on that prop is astounding -- I could basically do an entire set from opener to closer just with Sankey items, and it wouldn't be a bad set.

I also think that in his teaching DVDs, he doesn't sell presentations as much as other performers could. For instance, if you based an entire pseudo-mentalism persona about reading people's pulses, then you might consider his strategy of gesturing a pulse-reading in order to motivate a peak as pure gold. If you didn't, then you'd probably think the trick was junk.
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I remember seeing Jay for the first time at Magie Montreal a long time ago when he was starting to get known. He had already been published in Richard's Almanac but his first book Sankey Panky wasn't out yet. He was incredible, he did his Cardboard Contortionist and everybody was in awe. It was clear by then that he was a notch or two above the others. Then I saw him a year later at Tannen's Jubilee and I remember his act like it was yesterday. He did his Collect Me Not and his Airtight (card in balloon). There was silence in the room then it exploded, every one was cheering. This was heavy stuff and very new at that time.
Jay is a powerful performer of magic. If you haven't seen him live you're missing something that can't be conveyed by video.
Nowadays, he wants to make a decent living with magic and his great creativity is a bit diluted by his flooding the market but don't be misled Jay is a performer/creator like few others. I understand that his style may not be the cup of tea of everyone however. And I must admit that I am less a fan now than I used to be.
Among the rehash and the overload of ordinary things there still are spark of great tricks if we have the patience to sift through all his published material. I also admit that I like his older material better than his newest ones but still those memories are some of the reasons that I still do magic today and for this I can never thank him enough.

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