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Silvio Solaris Inner circle Xtreme Magic 1110 Posts |
Who makes good and inexpensive ones?
Magical Wishes
Silvio Solaris 'Is all that we see and seem but a dream within a dream?' E.A.Poe |
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TaylorReed Special user Branson, MO 743 Posts |
Clydesdale case Company and Big Deal case company in Canada...
Encore in America.... Encore is out of California and most magicians and magic builders seem to go with them... IF you are going to handle your own gear, then I would go with the quarter inch cases because they are much lighter and cheaper to ship.... If you are going be sending your gear all around the world then you may want to go with half inch cases... They are stronger, but much heavier and cost more to ship..The quarter inch cases are normally heavy even empty.. Most of my cases are quarter inch thick, I'm not a big fan of the half inch because they are very heavy... There both great though depending on what you need them for.. I'm not sure you can get Great cases at a cheap price... I would spend the extra money and get a case that will outlive your props... Just my take and I hope this helps you. Taylor Reed
www.taylorreed.com
www.usedmagicillusions.com taylor@taylorreed.com (979)482-0714 See: The Magic and Comedy of Taylor Reed, Live in Branson, Mo |
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hugmagic Inner circle 7655 Posts |
Talk with Gary Petterson at Encore. He makes cases for the most of the builders as he was a Long Beach Mystic and knows what is needed.
You might even see if he has some Orphan cases that would work for you. I know he has started doing injection molded cases. I have had very good luck with Parker Cases out of California. They are strong and light. I have picked them up on Ebay at great prices. I have also used Cabbage cases. They have a place in Columbus, Ohio that makes the cases. I believe there are several other branches around the country. Firberbilt makes somes decent fiber cases. I have not used their ATA cases so I cannot comment. No matter what case you get. It will be beat up and abused. I have seen forklifts put through the middle of a ATA case holding a Blaney hoop. There is no protection for idiots. I agree with Taylor about the 1/4" and 1/2" walls. It also depends if you are shipping or trucking. If you have any doubts, figure you are shipping. These cases are too expensive to have to rebuy them later. Also get good casters on them. And pay for the foam to go inside. It protects things so much better than a blanket wrapped around it. If you can, sometimes, it is good to have the prop to let them actually fit the case. In Encore's case, he has built a lot of cases so he has some good ideas to help on things and knows a lot of what is needed. Also your builder should have a good idea of what is needed. Most builders charge their cost for the case, no markups. They made their money on the illusion. This is just a service to the customer. Richard
Richard E. Hughes, Hughes Magic Inc., 352 N. Prospect St., Ravenna, OH 44266 (330)296-4023
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cardone Special user 860 Posts |
All my cases are Anvil.
and 1-800-cases 2 go is a place that orders many different brands and they can help you pick the right one . |
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
I send all my props out in ATA cases I build using the SAME hardware as all the case builders.
Jack
Jack Murray
http://www.dream-illusions.com |
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
A great case builder is Indy Case in Indianapolis, IN. They make the newer X Frame cases. An X Frame case is the new era of road or ATA cases. Very few people are building this style of case to date. The leader in the market is Indy Case.
Basically instead of extrusion pieces like ATA case...X frame's are made of square tubular aluminum, creating a skeleton. After that the side panels are riveted onto the skeleton. This makes a much stronger case, while being lighter than your typical case. If a forklift punches a hole through your case, you simply pop the rivets on THAT PANEL ONLY...not taking off extrusions and taking half of the case apart just to replace one side. Another great advantage is hinged doors and panels can that completely open all the back onto itself...instead of ATA cases that only open up like a refrigerator does. Currently 8 of our cases are X frames and they are they only way we go now. The ironic thing is the price is the same and on occasion even cheaper than ATA cases...cause of materials and the process in which they build them. Here are two links for you to check out, the first is info about X Frame case, the second link is their gallery of X Frames. http://indycase.com/XFrame.php http://indycase.com/PhotoGallery_XFrame.php Several magicians have gone this route and plenty of production companies as well as Rolls Royce have utilized this new option in protective cases. Their work boxes are the best we have seen. Hope that helps. If you contact them ask for Jake and let him know Kevin & Kristen sent you his way. Kevin
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
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MagicWGH Regular user Covington, LA 165 Posts |
Side note: Pick a color and stick with it so they are easily distinguishable backstage. I use a real ugly lime green so no one will mistakenly take one of mine. I've seen way too many blacks and reds that could get confused.
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Silvio Solaris Inner circle Xtreme Magic 1110 Posts |
Just love that black/silver look. I will probably spray my name on it with phospherous paint.
Thank you all very much for the great info and tips!
Magical Wishes
Silvio Solaris 'Is all that we see and seem but a dream within a dream?' E.A.Poe |
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gulamerian Special user 581 Posts |
I have cases built by many different builders. They all have their pros and cons. As far as price goes they are about the same. I have a few cases that were built by Jack Murry and they have held up really well. All of our cases are different colors. They all have our name on them. If a prop requires more than one case the cases are the same color. Having different color cases makes it easier for stage crews to load and unload. "I need the two green cases" Instead of "I need the two black cases" When they are all black the crew dosen't know which one. Just food for thought.
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The Mirror Images Inner circle Michigan/USA 1980 Posts |
I have many of Dream Illusions - Jack Murray case. Great product and great prices. Cant go wrong. You can spend a lot at some of these others for the same product else where.
Best,
Steven and Michael, The Mirror Images
The MOST Identical Twin Illusionist http://www.themirrorimages.com Check out our latest new effect - Liquid Steel NEW - MotoBox NEW - MotoMation NEW - Voyager |
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the magic case lady New user 5 Posts |
There are hundreds of choices for cases out there in the world. If you are shipping, whether it is by boat, planes, trains, or truck, you should have your case made to ATA spec 300 category 1. This means the case is guaranteed for 100 round trips. This does not mean someone won't put a forklift through it. It means the workmanship will withstand all those round trips. Whether you build with 1/4" ply wood, 3/8" ply wood, or 1/2" ply wood depends on the weight of the item and how fragile it is. However, wood is heavy. And it can really add to the shipping charges. A&S Case Company has a material that can be up to 60% lighter than wood. It is fire retardent, fire suppressive, won't wick water, and is stronger than wood. It is the same material they make the floors of airplanes from. The weight savings will depend on the size of the case. The larger the case the more savings in weight. It is more expensive to purchase, but it can save you hundreds of dollars the first time you ship it.
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cardone Special user 860 Posts |
I have a few Jack Murray cases and they are nice ... but my favs are Anvil cases made with ABS plastic ...light weight and strong as H***.
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Kevin Ridgeway V.I.P. Indianapolis, IN & Phoenix, AZ 1832 Posts |
Not sure if case lady was speaking of Dibond or not. It is about the best material to make ATA cases out of. It is 2 aluminum sheets bonded together with a thermoplastic core.
It is way lighter than wood and much stronger. It is expensive, but worth it. Kevin
Living Illusions
Ridgeway & Johnson Entertainment Inc Kevin Ridgeway & Kristen Johnson aka Lady Houdini The World's Premier Female Escape Artist www.LadyHoudini.com www.livingillusions.com |
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the magic case lady New user 5 Posts |
Actually, the material is two pieces of unidirectional fiberglass with a nomex or aluminum core. We even have some with carbon fiber and a kevlar core. It is a truly magic material. It is very expensive but the weight just disappears!
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Silvio Solaris Inner circle Xtreme Magic 1110 Posts |
Isn't plywood a little outdated? There must be stronger and lighter materials available. I like the carbon fiber sandwiched in between kevlar. Now that's space age!
Who makes that one and what can I expect to pay for let's say a 24x30x8 case for starters?
Magical Wishes
Silvio Solaris 'Is all that we see and seem but a dream within a dream?' E.A.Poe |
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the magic case lady New user 5 Posts |
For a case that is 30 x 24 x 8 with recessed latches and handles and carpet lining the cost in plywood with black ABS laminate is $440.00 while the cost in carbon fiber flyweight is $816.00.
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the magic case lady New user 5 Posts |
Actually, it is black carbon fiber on the exterior with a kevlar core...
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
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On 2009-12-22 17:28, the magic case lady wrote: For this case I charge $292.60, W/4 recessed handles, 4 casters, recessed butterfly latches. 1/4" BAS side walls, and foam lining. Shipping is extra. I use only industry standard hardware and extrusions. Jack
Jack Murray
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the magic case lady New user 5 Posts |
That's a great price. But I would be hard pressed to put casters on an 8" side. It would tip in a heartbeat. And on any other side it would be a huge skateboard. You really need 12" for casters. Otherwise it will tip when you roll it.
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Jack Murray Special user St. Petersburg Fl. 773 Posts |
Well the casters could be mounted on a "caster board" attached to the case. It could be wider depending on the load and center of gravity.
Jack Murray
http://www.dream-illusions.com |
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