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Justin Hart Loyal user Warsaw, VA 221 Posts |
In looking for these coins online, I've found that (this is an assumption) it would be very hard to find a matching set of five. I live in the sticks with no coin shops close.
Any idea where to get five or six? How thin are these compared to a soft morgan? (Are they similar to the Norm N. manip coins?) Weight? I use morgans because of their weight. I like a solid feel. Not a fan of ting. I was also looking at the 1811 Haitian Crowns from Mr. Lassen. Why did he remove the prices from his site? Todd is the only coin machinist I would call. I wish I had never switched to Dollars. (Thanks KH, lol) |
cperkins Special user 700 Posts |
Justin, stay with it...dollars are more fun to work with (for me a least) and just add to your overall skill. I have small hands so I had some work to do to make the adjustment but much more fun with the big guys!
If you can do more, you can always do less I always say,,,huh? Finding coppers this large in the numismatic world isn't easy. Such a large copper coin wouldn't have been worth much way back when so there are relatively few to choose from. Coming up with five 30 Kreutzer coins may be a bit of a challenge - I attended several coin shops and a coin show recently - no luck. A far less expensive alternative is to just call Todd Lassen. He is a good guy and has coins in stock (whether real coinage or special mintages) that will just blow you away. He has some gorgeous copper coins in stock that will work perfectly with silver dollars. If for a spellbound routine - your dollars don't need to be soft - actually, new looking and shiny is better and will go nicely with what Todd has to offer - $18 - $20 a piece is my guess. He has some that are slightly larger than a dollar (like an English penny is to a half), and this will be important to you. If your dollars look good, this will really set you up with some beautiful tools. If you work hard at it and you are able to, treat yourself! Hope this helps. cp
To see a difficult thing lightly handled gives the impression of the impossible.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Cp makes good points here, I'd listen to him.
Hey cp, check your PMs.
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Justin Hart Loyal user Warsaw, VA 221 Posts |
Thank you for your reply CP. Kainoa Harbottle was the one that said, "Hey, why are you using halves? Your hands are big enough for dollars." That was about four years ago or so and I've used them ever since.
Odd how a half dollar that felt so big now feels like a quarter. (I live with a coin palmed in some form or another just about every awake moment. I've tried sleeping with a coin classic palmed, but can't hold it all night. I know I have problems with OCD.) I just wish there was price list from Todd so that I could make a wish-list. I bought my soft morgans with [ and flipper from him and was quite impressed. |
cperkins Special user 700 Posts |
Call him and ask him!!! He won't bite!!!
To see a difficult thing lightly handled gives the impression of the impossible.
(Goethe) |
Justin Hart Loyal user Warsaw, VA 221 Posts |
lol Point taken.
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Mb217 Inner circle 9520 Posts |
Justin, me too... I've been playing with dollar size coins for some months now almost exclusively and halves feel like quarters to me too.
Regularly now you'll catch me with my soft Morgans or a dollar size Chinese Coin working my show. Whenever I do happen to use the halves, everything I do is so much better as they feel like toys. There is no doubt that the smaller coins are much easier to manipulate and more importanly hide, and that's probably why most folks prefer them - whatever works for you. You have to get used to the larger ones but once you do, it's hard to go back, plus the magic with them appears even more amazing because of their size IMHO. I'm manipulating them all through the day in and out of different palms, through differing routines and little by little it comes as the hands/fingers stretch themselves toward even greater potentials. Even the Crimp Change with the larger coins (no easy feat for most I hear) is even there now, smooth and much more visible. And MickyP, that Blow Change really rocks with bigger ROCKS.
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lorenwade Special user 869 Posts |
Hey man, if you're looking for multiple Kreuzers in the same quality... that is near impossible. I second the thoughts here on calling Todd Lassen. He has some reproduced crowns you can use... but they're not soft coins, unfortunately.
And for the record, I have switched to Dollar coins as well. I can't give them up now. |
rutabaga Inner circle Toronto, Canada 1283 Posts |
Stick with the search... I was looking for a set of half crowns some time back and ended up with eight [for 4 coins [+ shell, C/S and flipper to be made by Todd] beautifully matching specimens. It took many months, and the shipping adds a lot, but worth it for your dream coins. [And yes, it took another few months to find then buy matching coppers for the C/S!]
All this to say – once you find your coins of choice, don't compromise! Now that I have the coins, I just need to save enough to have the gaff work done, and I'll have a beautiful, custom set – buttery soft silver half crowns [young Vic head], matched with dark copper old Canadian pennies [all of which totally suits my character!], sized between halves and dollars [premium size for my hands]... I can't wait! |
cperkins Special user 700 Posts |
Rutabaga, that does sound sweet the way you describe that.
As you you, it is good to know exactly what you want and why you want it beforehand because it ain't cheap to do and you want to avoid expensive mistakes. You can do the same magic with other coins I know, but this can be part of the passion and fun of it all. I have actually motivated myself to work on a particular routine or two by telling myself to hold off with some of these special tools until I felt I had pretty much mastered the routines and would go forward with them. I find that many coin conjurers also have a strong interest in numismatics - true "coinies" in every sense. Lastly, I too have switched to the big guys and can't go back. With small hands this was difficult at first but I believe it has improved visual displays and it is just so much more fun to work with. No matter your hand size, I believe just about anyone without physical disability can master larger coins - anyone. For those of you thinking about it, I encourage you to try - a nice little challenge. Doesn't bother me that my specs have never seen a silver dollar or an old ten baiocchi papal copper coin or whatever. For me this is a bogus issue and has never presented a problem. Onward!
To see a difficult thing lightly handled gives the impression of the impossible.
(Goethe) |
Justin Hart Loyal user Warsaw, VA 221 Posts |
CP I agree there. The audience doesn't mind that its not clad as some magicians will lead you to believe. Actually I think (this goes back to my view on the okito box) we are supposed to have props that are unique and interesting.
Lol, I fail to see the magic in clad. |
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