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On 2009-12-23 20:06, Jonathan Townsend wrote:
Doug, our televisions don't currently support polarized light separation of images. At least mine don't. So those glasses aren't much use. What TV do you have which works?


Yep I had heard that the processing power of current TV's isn't up to it but a couple of major players were bringing out 3D TV in the New Year. I'd assumed Dough has seen a TV at a demo which showed this which wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Come on Jonathan!!!!! OF course it is new tech. Last years stuff HAS to be made obsolete!

TV's by one or two mfgs are already on the market. Toshiba? Samsung will be a big player but I think they are going for the Shutter type. (yuk. Here we go again with the Betamax-VHS wars).

I forget which brand we were watching demoed but it was Poloroid based and OUTSTANDING playing 3-D Disney product(Pixar Toy Story 3 etc). Very exciting to watch.
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Is it me though or does selling TV's which are 3D enabled not feel like a desperate gimmick too far.

I like gizmos as much as the next person but already feel slightly stung by HDTV because no matter how much people tell me different I think the difference in viewing experience is wafer thin. Same thing with Blu-Ray and normal DVD's ( except for the cost obviously).

If manufacturers want to promote the next great technological advance I think 3D isn't the way to go--I'd go for bigger, flatter, lighter TV's.
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The demand and money for 3D TV is not there yet. It will come probable in 2013.
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Gilgamesh- yeah, it's probably in some ways similar to "audiophiles".
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One word: Smell-O-Vision. For DVD players!
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I just returned from seeing “Avatar” with my wife daughter and son. My 19 year old daughter was most vocal about how great the movie was but I think we all liked it very much. Even being completely predictable it was very entertaining and the special effects were spectacular.

I can also see the “Dances with Wolfs” similarities but with a happy ending. This time the indigenous people over come their adversaries, with help of the invaders, turned patriots through their Avatars.

Although the most heroic act was not physical, but was rather asking the great spirit of the planet for deliverance from their foe, which it did.
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And now we know the back story for "invasion of the body snatchers" where the plant intelligence sends some help to fix our world.
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Gilgamesh...your 'wafer thin' comment is dead on.

Consider this... a 27" led flat screen 720 at 8 1/2 feet using an enhanced DVD player is exactly like a 1080 with Blue Ray. No difference to be noted or appreciable gain to upgrade. (Forget where the testing was done.) So since our seats are exactly 8 1/2 feet...I got the 27" 720 on sale and an enhanced player and my reg DVDs knock our socks off. TV=$349. Samsung DVD Player $49.

The desperate gimmick is on the theater side as they do everything they can to lure folks away from the living rooms. 3-D TV once you see it is no more a slaes gimmick than sound over silent. It's really stunning. Also normal 2-D films can be easily altered to play 3-D with a few computer tricks. Well, maybe not easy but very doable.

Exciting stuff really for us 3-D fans. Smile

Smell is also an older tech updated. There was a process called Odor-Ama (I saw one in New York City back in the day.) And Waters used scratch'n'sniff cards for one of his gross out flicks and called it smell-o-vision.
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http://www.reald.com/Content/Monitor-ZScreen.aspx

so what do you think of the backstory to invasion?

btw if you want immersive - look at the research for when the frame rate goes to over 60fps.
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There was this thing I remember reading about where smells were pumped into theatres during movies. But it was expensive to make those modifications to the theatre for something so goofy so it never caught on.
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In just 3 weeks Avatar grossed over 1 billion dollars!

http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/0......dex.html

"in just 17 days, "Avatar" has surpassed $1 billion in the global box office. To put that in perspective, it took "The Dark Knight" pretty much its entire theatrical run just to make it to that milestone."

I just saw it again in IMAX 3D to a sold out theater ($16.50 per ticket), the only way to see this movie.... 12,000 watts of sound power! Visually stunning action scenes.

BTW, 3D TV is the new wave of TV for 2010, $200 extra!
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So much for a bad economy.
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He stole from "the new world", and "last of the mochicans".

sony will have 3-d tv's out by the end of the year, but you have to buy the glasses for around 200...
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Yeah, seems that the 3d tv's will need shutter glasses as there's no real way to deal with it yet - polarized TV's would not allow that much of a viewing angle. I guess the best bet would be a very high res television with lenticular display (like some 3d bookcovers - there are laptops supporting this) but then you'd be limited in viewing distance.

The viewing angle is a problem with polarized 3d. Front rows and theatre side seats have much more problems seeing the 3d properly.

It will be interesting to see where it goes though, because they sure are hoping for something that would force us to buy new TV's, and it seems 3D is what they're hoping for - not sure it'll take off though as continued 3d viewing will get very headachy for many. The problem is that you can't focus on anything except what was in focus when filming. On a regular TV you can (it'll be out of focus but with 3D it's also 'out of depth'. Some people tend to let their eyes wander to see what's going on in the background - in 3D movies this is sure to confuse the brain.

Then again - we got used to 2D TV, it's probably just a trained skill.

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I loved the movie personally. So much imagination, but like people said, predictable plot lines, and yet very very enjoyable.
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On 2009-12-23 05:22, Scott Cram wrote:

(They made the scenery in 3-D. Why couldn't they do the same for the plot and the characters?)

Finally saw it and I've got to agree. By the 2nd hour my wife and I were yawning. Kind of depressing to think this is the biggest money maker ever.
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The 3-D scenery in Avatar was so well received that, in the sequel, they're thinking of trying out 3-D personalities for the characters, for the first time in the series.
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On 2009-12-26 14:31, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Gilgamesh- yeah, it's probably in some ways similar to "audiophiles".
Anyone want an 8' speaker cable, on sal......,800.00?

Are they really serious?

Anyway, Lol. I like some of the comments.

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"At first I thought what I could spend almost 7,000 on. There were the usual options, Vacation in Bermuda, a weekend with two high priced call-girls, a bender in Vegas, but then I came across these speakers, and knew (JUST KNEW!!!!) what I have been looking for all my life was finally within arms reach. So after calling a few elderly people and claiming I could cure all their money problems because I was a Nigerian Prince who just needed a little hlep getting my millions out of my bank which is now under government seizure if they just sent me thousands of dollars, it took me just three calls to "Shady Acres" retirement community before I had the cash to buy these. Now granted I didn't just hook these up to just any system but a high end Radio Shack Optimus reciever and super high end speakers I bought out of the back of a white van in a Home Depot parking lot (man I scored on that deal, the guy told me they were worth thousands) So after hooking these wires up, I realized all my problems were solved. I could finally hear that mouse in Ratattoiue fart at a distance of 1,000 meters."
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Balducci,

Thanks for the heads up - the reviews for this product are very funny.

Mike

NB : You set me on the path of looking for funny reviews:

Not sure if this is funny because the product is an abomination but hey, it takes all sorts:

http://brandsonsale.amazonwebstore.com/K......TSSG.htm
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