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Just to add to the threads an english magican Steven Tucker had a very nice color changing knife routine that he had on video in the early to mid 80s. the name of the video escapes me. In my opinion his routine was much stronger than Daryls or Bill Malones routine . don't get me wrong both of there routines are excellent also. I have not seen the Tamariz routine .
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The best way to handle wide knives (and do the turnover moves) is to hold them loosely... a tight grip makes it more difficult.

Hey, I can to the paddle move with a rat trap!
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Pete,

I agree! The looser grip allows for more comfort and also makes the move look nicer. I don't own Daryl's set but I have played with it. I had no problem with the move. It is a simple matter of remembering that you are jsut turning your hand over. I do it so much that it find myself doing it all the time. I can do it with a steak knife now.
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For those of you who like the Daryl Routine,but would like to have top quality knives to work with. Please check out Mogars New Perfect Knife Set. It is a 2 knife set. one is White/Red and the other is White with 1/2 White and 1/2 Red on the other side. These knives are also constructed with clear sides to make the workings much easier when working for people who are sitting at a table. The set is $45.00 and can be seen at http://www.magic-stars.com I will be happy to answer any questions about the knives.
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Hey, I can to the paddle move with a rat trap!
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I'd love to hear your patter for that trick !
How does it play in resuraunts! Smile
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I like Daryl's routine too, but have found the knives just to big, the Mogar knives I believe are the ones I will be buying very soon..
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If you own the Daryl knives and actually have problems with the paddle move go to http://www.wolfsmagic.com/Tips.htm
and have a look on the video of Chance's alternate handling. It will also work fine with the knives. By the way: Chance's paddle trick "Shattered" is worth every cent!
For those of you who are going to buy a knive set with a visual color change - spend the additional 10 $ to get the Mogar Perfect Knives as stated by Jmagic. The Daryl knives have dyed paper layers underneath the clear plastic handles and I wonder how they would look if they would get wet or sweaty. In addition the blades are not made of stainless steel and tend to corrode.
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Joe Mogar has a new set of knives that are made just like Daryl's, with the clear tops to prevents flashing from the sides. I'll post a review here as soon as I get them.

If you don't know, Joe makes beautiful knives. He makes the Whit Haydn set that is so popular.

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Just recieved a Mogar "perfect" set. They are beatiful and handle like a dream. Anyone want to buy a set of Daryl knives????

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I, too, just received my set of Joe Mogar "Perfect" knives and they are terrific! They're red and white with the clear plastic top just like Daryl's, so flashing is reduced. The only real difference is on the half-and-half knive: There's no fingerprint smudge between the two colors. But, man, do they handle nicely!

When I ordered them from Joe, he said he decided to manufacture them because he was receiving so many requests from people to make a set like Daryl's.

I think the cost is about $50.00 or slightly less. Really nice!

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Harry Murphy writes: "Marco asks for the reason for color changing knives?" and then points out that, at one time, people carried pocket knives, along with walking sticks, pocket handkerchiefs, pocket watches, and they worse fedoras, vests, and spats!

But they don't any more.

So why are magicians STILL doing tricks with pocket knives? There may be routines with them that are wonderful; but the fact remains that doing ANYTHING with such a dated piece of material is ludicrous!

Magicians still do the dancing cane! But who carried a walking stick these days? Certainly not the twenty-somethings that you see on stage with them! A pool cue? Okay. A broom? Okay. But a walking stick? I don't think so!

If magic is to ever be anything but a third-rate entertainment, magicians have GOT to get with the times.

That doesn't mean throwing out all the old stuff -- just throwing out all the old, BAD stuff!

And if you don't think the color-changing POCKET KNIVES fall into that category then you are a real magician: You have managed to fool yourself!
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Peter:

I've always carried a pocket knife with me. So, does it make sense for me to do this routine?

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People don't carry sponge balls, decks of cards, three different lengths of rope, or paddles with "The End" written on them either Peter, yet I believe you use all three in your table hopping shows.

Something to think about.
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Good point Futureal. I don't think I've EVER walked around with 3 different lengths of rope in my pocket. What would I ever use those for??? A pocket knife, on the other hand, has come quite in handy in more then a few instances. What was the term you used? "Third-rate entertainment." I'm afraid your logic has just turned around and bit you on your behind Peter.
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PETA_PETA PETA My impersonation of Betty Davis. Yes, she's passe but she will always be one of the greatest actresses of our time.
Just like the color changing knives, the cups and balls, the linking rings, cutting a woman in half, etc. Yes the time changes but the old great magic lives on.
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Indeed, I always enjoy seeing these routines well performed. And you can earn your life with the cups and balls alone.
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Still, Peter Marucci makes a good point in that we can be concious of how well our props and presentations fit our environment and times. His idea of a dancing pool cue to replace the plastic black cane with white tips is awesome!

Back to the main point of the thread: recently, even after reading all these posts, I took the minority report and decided to purchase the Daryl Color Changing Knives. The Magic Warehouse had stopped carrying them because of so many complaints about the width and difficulty of doing the paddle move. Even in the face of that I ordered a set.
The knives do indeed require special handling and sometimes a warm-up earlier in the day of performance, but they do work, the red and yellow colors are excellent, and the finger print smudge finale is fun.
Having learned the routine from Daryl's video also helped.

alleycat Smile

P.S. Does anyone know how to get corrosion off non-stainless steel blades?
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Are Daryl's knives not stainless steel?
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Peter, your general point is well-taken, but I think there is still life in color-changing knives. You just have to provide the context for introducing a knife. I use them all the time, but here's how:

During my ambitious card set, I use "That Old Yarn". I hold the yarn and ask the spectator to trim it (handing them an ungaffed pocket knife). Now the knife has been introduced. It has a reason. It has even been (passively) inspected. After the yarn has been cut, the knife is closed and put to the side of my working surface. Later, as I put the knife away, I fiddle with it and go into a color-changing (transposition) routine a la Johnny Thompson. By the way, I use a custom made set that Joe Mogar put together for me. The man's workmanship is flawless.

I suppose, if I were truly modern, I could do color-changing solar-powered electric clippers, but the knife takes up less room in my pocket, and gets the job done!

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