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Joe Russell
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Penn and Teller are the greatest magicians and performers to grace the face of the earth!!!!!!!!!
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I'm in the camp that agrees that Penn and Teller are pretty incredible. A big part of their charm is that they don't take themselves (or the magic profession) too seriously. They have a lot of fun with it. And part of that fun (as has already been said) is exposing an effect and then totally pulling something over on the audience using the same effect. In the end, I'm not sure the audience has bought the "exposure" anyway.
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Penn and Teller's "exposure" is perfect for proving the age old theory: people are stupid (and I don't just mean "spectators" or "non-magicians") especially when you take them out of their element and put them up in front of other people. Their mind goes in completely different directions.

It is for this reason that I don't perform overlong tricks or tricks that are too complicated for the spectator; and the reason that I almost always go through what happened in the trick before the revelation (assuming it fits the trick). You see people on even professional magic videos forgetting something as simple as what their card is! Other times, after a trick, they're confused as to what the effect was. Examples can be seen on these forums with the "Twisting the Aces is boring" thread and in Michael Ammar's ETMCM 1 at the end of the ace trick. You can feel that the spectators didn't remember if the aces had been there to begin with.

With all this in mind, how are they going to see your pass even if you expose it to them one minute before but misdirect them properly?
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And they are very nice guys to boot.
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I have and will continue to spend my money on seeing them perform. They are entertainers and darn good at it.
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I cannot exactly recall where I heard Eugene Burger say this but he said something about Penn and Teller "exposing magic" and it was hilarious. Thumbs up to their magic show and their TV show although the last season has not been as great as I expected.
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To hell with anyone who exposes magic in any way, shape, form...
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When you get right down to it, they expose a lot less magic than they say they expose. More magic is exposed every day by bad magicians performing when they have no business performing.

More harm is done to our art by those same guys, mostly who gripe about P&T.

By the way NOBODY takes our art more seriously than Teller himself. He is fantastically talanted and so by the way is Penn.

As far as the entertainment value of what they do, well it speaks for itself.

Personally I enjoy them imensley. I wish them continued good fortune.
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I've only seen Penn and Teller in the TV show they had over here in the UK a few years back, plus a few TV appearances since then. From what I saw, they only revealed a few simple principles and then went on to perform some impressive tricks. They're entertaining to watch, and for me, much more entertainly that magicians who dance around the stage gurning to music whilst perfoming.
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The point is that they do not really "expose" the tricks they do. Come on the cups and balls routine that get mentioned so often was so entertaining and fast the audience still had no idea. Not even Eugene Burger thinks that is exposing the secret so come on. Besides do you really think laymen think the lemon or whatever appears under the cup magically and that you didn't put it there? If they do think that they need to visit some sort of psychologist.
You present it as "magic" They know there is an explanation but they have no idea how you did it. That is the whole point of entertaining magic and that is what makes them so good. After the cups and balls "presentation" they did the audience still had no more of an idea than they had before they "exposed" the secret. They were written about as exposers of magic and I have spoken to numerous magicians who are talking anout Penn and Teller exposing magic and then these people have never even seen the show. They just heard about it. I wonder how much of that is true here.
Besides there magic Penn is a fine musician and so is Teller.
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Did anyone happen to catch them on an old rerun of Saturday Night Live? After the spec took a card penn said,"Now I will do a fake overhand shuffle and a charlier pass." There were about 3 chuckles in the audience. I thought it was funny. Not really exposing
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If that is exposing then Bill Malone exposes every time he does Sam the Bellhop when he said " he even took a walk down crimp street".

Come on this is nowhere near exposure!!
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Who the cap fits, let them wear it...
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On 2005-10-25 13:42, Gede Nibo wrote:
Who the cap fits, let them wear it...
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On 2005-10-23 21:51, Gede Nibo wrote:
To hell with anyone who exposes magic in any way, shape, form...


Good Grief! You guys just make excuses for these jerks. Exposure is exposure. What's with the "yea, they expose magic. BUT THEY DO IT SO GOOD!" attitude? I heard nothing but complaining when the Masked Magician exposed secrets. So how come P & T get a pass? Isn't that being hypocritical?
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OK first off I NEVER complained about that masked idiot. He was a flash in the pan and is way gone.

Second my arguement is that P&T don't really expose anything anyhow.

Third as I stated, more magic is exposed by performers who have NO business performing in the first place because they are SO bad. THIS is what we should real against but they are encouraged here in the Café.

Lastly P&T are GREAT for magic in general. They say they expose more than they do, and bottome line are fun to watch.

Let it go
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I have never seen P&T live and have never met them.
I find myself enjoying maybe half of what they do.
I watched their shows on HBO and found about half of them insightful and entertaining.
In the past, I bought a couple of their books and found them to be about 10% useful and about 15% entertaining.
When I have seen them perform on TV, less than half of what they do lacks crassness and vulgarity.
You do the math.
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The greatest trick the Devil ever performed was convincing people that he didn’t exist. I believe P & T are doing the same when they are performing their “exposing magic” routine. Just my opinion.
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So now they are the devil?
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I just recently say P&T's underwater special, and I have to say, it sucked. I couldn't finish it. When they revealed metamorphasis, and also when Aaron Carter sang and danced underwater, it ruined all chances of me enjoying it. I will say that I must give them credit for being world renowned magicians, and having ellaborate stage shows and tv specials, but this magic wasnt it for me. The utmost respect for all magi, but no thanks to this tv special!
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