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NJJ
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Just playing with the ol' ketchup bottle and thought it would make a good thread....much like this one http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......;forum=8


What is your favourite thing to do with a Nielsen Bottle?
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Kids birthday party with a cooked meal of something and chips (french fries) ...

I have an empty one and full one. The full one I smear a bit of ketchup around the rim beforehand, and let them smell it! Then I make the ketchup disappear; finish with making the bottle disappear too!

They love it ... especially when out of my bag (which is a few feet away, I produce a full bottle, which they can use with their meal).

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Great idea! Only problem is that in Australia we don't have the same type of bottle. In fact, we call Ketchup, "Tomato Sauce".

I was mucking around with a fellow magician and I told him I had a new way to vanish a Neilson. I put the bottle in a bag and 'magically' pulled out the tube the bottle came in and screwed up the bag.

Of course, he thought I had just put the bottle in the tube and was being. When he opened the tube it was full of spring snakes. I got the idea from the forum.
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I opened my show with a Neilson Schlitz bottle for a while. I talked about finding it in the street and wanted to confirm that it didn't belong to anyone here! Then we agreed that it shouldn't have been thrown in the street. It should have gone in a recycling bin.

Then I would do the paper bag vanish. Treating it as discarded garbage overcame any of the usual disagreements by using a beer bottle. Also, the bottle in a worn paper bag made perfect sense.
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I prefer the CocaCola bottle empty or full to the Heinz Ketchup bottle because many restaraunts now have the plastic Heinz bottle already colored bright ketchup red so it never looks empty or used.

So far, people still know the Coke bottle is made of "glass".
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I personally like the martini bottle.

Much better I think.
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The beer bottles work great for antidrinking shows.
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I always perform the vanishing ketchup bottle in all of my shows for kids. they really love it and it opens you up for some very good byplay and comical moments. Of course, it is all in the presentation of the effect.

I perform it by telling the kids of a great new trick I was working on. The reason why it is so good is that it involves things they have at home. This proves that you do not need a lot of money to do magic.

I show a brown paper bag and the ketchup bottle. Place the ketchup bottle into the bag and say magic words (usually the b-day child's name). But instead of vanishing it, I make it magically turn itself into a tomatoe.

Now of course that is the easy part and the hard part is making it change back. Which I am so glad to perform for the group. This never fails to get laughs and giggles and get the kids talking.

I always always have one grown up in the audience who will clap when no one else does. This is my que to thank the individual and do an encore presentation just for them. The kids love it and the person plays along in good fun.

I perform it again and state that the best part of the trick is that no one ever figures it out. Of course as I am saying this, I make a quick glare into the bag as a hint for the kids hat it is ok to state where they think it may be.

The kids want to see in the bag and they will always tell you this. This then is my que to tell the kids I will prove that the bottle is gone. I take a look in the bag and state.. yep all gone no bottle.

Kids will of course start laughing and ask that someone else have a look. This is when I look puzzled and allow my assistant (my wife) to have a look. She of course asks for money up front and then state nope nothing in the bag. This also gets a lot of laughs.

Finally I prove it by turning the bag upside down. The kids all scream that I am just holding onto the bag. I then take a vote and have the kids raise their hand if they thgink I am holding onto the bottle. Everyone including my assistant raises their hands. This gets a laugh as even my assistant does not believe me. =)

I finally apologize to the audience for wasting their time and crumple up the bag as I promise to do better next time.

I then toss out a duplicate crumpled bag and have a person throw it away after the show. This is an added kicker so that you appear clean at the end.

I have found a lot of fun with this routine and have modified it through the years.
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As anyone used NON paper bags to good effect. I know that they could look gimmicky but it also looks more professional.

I have used a cloth wine bottle giftbag that has elastic sewn into the neck. That means I can let go of the bottle when its upside down and the neck of the bottle sticks out (with falling) It gets a good laugh!
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Nicholas:
Good idea. I also use this effect without the bag. I use it in conjunction with a vanishing coke bottle. The kind that splits and is plastic and the bottom part becomes the tube that you covered the coke bottle with. This works great becasue you can place the ketchup bottle inside of the hollow coke bottle. Then when the coke bottle vanishes, it looks like it magically turned into a ketchup bottle. It looks striking and also gets a good reaction.
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I heard the label wrinkels on the ketchup bottle. If it does, are there any replacements?
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You can buy replacements from Nielson.

THe instructions suggest taking the label off between gigs.

Try and flatten it in a book
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Thank you for the info, Nicholas. Have a donut, the tab is on me.
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Just don't iron it!
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Yes, you can get replacement stickers from neison. I always just make sure to straighten up the bottle as soon after the performance as I can. I also make sure it goes right back into the tube after every performance.

This may take extra time on my part, but I have found it is well worth it. It protects the bottle more form the heat and helps keep the sticker looking good.
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Kyle,

Good suggestion on taking care of your props, so they can take care of you and your audiences.

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I was mucking around with a fellow magician and I told him I had a new way to vanish a Neilson. I put the bottle in a bag and 'magically' pulled out the tube the bottle came in and screwed up the bag.

Of course, he thought I had just put the bottle in the tube and was being. When he opened the tube it was full of spring snakes. I got the idea from the forum.

Hi,
Actualy the idea belongs to Martin Lewis and it is on his "Making Magic video" he does it with a pringles tube and plays on the words "snacks" and "Snakes"

David Acer has a nice routine with beer bottles that can be changed to Katchup the red sauce could change to brown sauce the great thing is because the brown sauce is a real bottle when you place the bag on the table ext it makes the red sauce bottle (all they now of at that time) seem solid.
Phillip

HI,
Does anyone out there no where I can buy the brown bags for this trick?

Unfortunatley most bags here in the uk are the wrong style they do not have the flat bottoms. I am looking to but them in good qtys perferably from the UK
Phillip
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PB:
Sorry I can't help you there with the bags. In the states you can get these at most any place. I guess we take it for granted too much.

Harris:
Thanks for the kind words. I have seen many magicians not take care of their own props. That just kills me to see someone cram all their junk into a box after their own shows.

My feeling is that if you do not care for your own props, then why should anyone else that watches your performance?

It may take me longer to load up my show afterwards, but to me it is well worth the extra time I spend. My props are always in good condition, I can find them at any time and I am always ready for a performance at a moments notice.
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Phillip,

Try looking into http://www.papermart.com/index.html
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Mike is right. You should be able to order some online and have them mailed to you. i cna not imagine the cost would be that much.
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