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TonyPorter
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On 2012-02-12 14:37, freewayh wrote:
This sounds great but I really think ill have to pass, at least until I know more of mentlaism effects I do need directions and ideas a dvd. And if someone owning this and saw v1.1 w could do a honst comparison I would love to read it.


I own both freewayh so I'll have a go at a comparison for you.

The first thing is the size, SAW is much smaller than the Showdown. Showdown is the same size as a typical back pocket wallet you might buy from a department store. SAW would be a little more than half that size. Therefore there is MUCH more space for credit cards etc. in the Showdown should you want to use it as your 'everyday' wallet. Having said that, both wallets can hold your cash although with SAW you would need to fold it in half.

Both wallets have the ever popular SUC feature and also the capacity for indexing cards or billets etc. However, once again, the Showdown gives you MUCH more freedom in this respect. The additional peek feature in the SAW is also in the Showdown but with Showdown you have an additional peek due to a special window that Outlaw have used on several of their wallets.

If I was in a brick and mortar magic shop and had both wallets in my hands, I would buy the Showdown without a moments hesitation. In my opinion it is so much more versatile (and roomy) than SAW. One benefit SAW does have is it comes with a DVD packed with routines and ideas.

I have the Showdown sitting in front of me as I write this but the SAW is packed away somewhere so I'm working from memory regarding its features.

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freewayh
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Thank you porter you just nailed something that ws bugging me, just for the style of the wallets I think I should get the showdown, there is no way I can explain the saw and I could even get picked on for it. Just hope I can clear my head on some ideas I think the wallet should help me do.
Mach
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So can any of the slots be "adapted" to be used as a holder for coins/loose change as part of everyday use?

Thanks

Mach
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Freewayh, there's no worry about the style of the SAW. I use it as my everyday wallet and no one has said a word.

On another note, Tony, I've thought of getting the Showdown as my SAW is several years old and on its last legs. In terms of its size, I'm just trying to visualize whether it would fit comfortably in a front hip pocket as opposed to the back. Is it too big for that?
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I used my SAW for 1.5 years, everyday in my front pocket, and later for about 6 months in my back pocket. It always worked great, and it took a severe beating. Let me tell you, I used the SAW to produce a pool ball for the longest time, and it kills coming from such a small wallet! I produced it through the SUC section, and it would always stretch perfectly to allow the pool ball to pop into view.
I then moved to the Infinity wallet, which has been in my backpocket for a while now. I use a slide and produce objects from inside its snapped-shut ID window area.
I have only recently bought the Showdown, and am excited to finally receive it. I do not plan on attempting to produce a pool ball from this wallet...
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Got this wallet recently, and its amazing. I've been on the lookout for a wallet that is versatile without diluting some effects, and this wallet ticks 99% of my requirements.
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Hi,

I could see that Rick (or Outlaw Effects) have written on their website that they would get the Showdown Wallet back in stock today (4/18), but I still can't order it. Does anybody know when it will be possible again? I would really, REALLY like to get it.
Or does anyone know if it is possible to buy the item second hand?

Thanks in advance.
Hypnotist. Mentalist.
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Hey Mikkel,

I believe that there's a slight delay in the restocking of the Showdown wallet. I had mine backordered sometime back, but am still waiting for it.

Might I add that, despite this delay, Rick provides excellent customer service. So much so that I worry for his welfare. Smile Like some other posters on the forum, I sometimes wonder if Rick sleeps at all since he usually replies to emails ridiculously fast (unless he's very busy of course, which I'm sure he often is).

I emailed him a while ago, and am waiting for his reply on roughly when the Showdown wallet will be restocked. I'll get back to you once I found out. Alternatively, you could drop him a PM or an email to ask him yourself. I recommend that you get the wallet directly from him... I don't think many owners of a working, intact Showdown wallet would want to give it up anyway. Smile

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Things have moved on , most will agree Fourseen Wallet (Wallet and 2 DVD set) by Matthew Wright is the way to go
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Oh, I don't know. The Fourseen looks great - and doggone it I'll probably end up with one soon. But I wouldn't sell the Showdown wallet short! I have two Showdowns (Purchased a second on the "Tricks for Sale" forum just in case Outlaw Express discontinued it so I'd have one if my first one got lost!)

I don't think I could go wrong with a Fourseen wallet, but the Showdown fits just fine for most purposes. While the Fourseen looks to be very good for CTW, the Showdown is tough to beat for switching, multiple outs, and indexing. IMO they are both great for different reasons.

Jim
ArtIn
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Fourseen and Showdown are VERY different and I wont sell any of both. Showdown is a very classy wallet!
Jim is totally right, two different wallets for different possibilities.
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They might be different but the point I was making you can do a lot more with foreseen than showdown , also as a package the foreseen comes with 2 DVD's packed full of routines ! ,
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Hopefully I can find out what can be done CTW-wise along with index and multiple outs, that is significantly better than what is already available ('cause I most likely already have what's already available!) One of the problems with having a magic wallet addiction is that you often end up with a lot of wallets that can do some things wonderfully that you never, ever use! E.g., I have a lot of wallets that have very deceptive peek features; many have more than one peek feature. But I never use wallets for peeks! I don’t like designing a routine around the fact that I need to place a card or note/billet into my wallet just to get a peek. Way too many other ways that don’t involve a wallet or other magic accessory. A good switching wallet is fine, as is a wallet that makes the CTW appear more impossible.

Not surprisingly it can take quite a while to find out if a new wallet on the market has the specific features that I really need instead of a whole lot that I don’t. That is, it can take a long while if I don’t want to shell out the bucks before I find out! (Not having any more magic retail shops nearby, and being too d*a**m*n*e*d cripped to go far to find one and personally examine some products is a real PITA!) What the Showdown does for me presently is a great switching ability and a whole lot of hidden places to keep effects designed to be pulled from a wallet. No true CTW feature.

I am hopeful of finding out more of what the Fourseen can actually do well, which may take some time. (And I no longer rely purely on reviews because, well, I think you know why; way too much marketing and promotion is done through reviews nowadays). I need for someone who I know and trust to have one and give me the real scoop, knowing what I would be looking for. From the early news on it I would guess that I will probably own one sooner or later.

:D

Thanks!

Jim
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Sorry but I have to disagree a bit with you JackMagic. You simply have a lot of tools on your hand with both wallets.
For example: ShoGun Feature Vs. Reverse Mullica (to name just two VERY big differences with a lot of nuances).
With showdown you have one of the most deceptive peeks (spectator can burn you and the wallet while you getting your peek) in your arsenal Vs. a four way peek which is ok but not nearly as clean and deceptive imho. I don't need to mention that both wallets can use their Mullica features for peeking and switching alike.
Switching billets using the showdown is a breeze (lot of ways to do that and due to the sho gun feature more versatile in that manner).
ShoGun Index feature Vs. Window Feature (but you can use the showdown for secret writing and loading a information as well). Please don't get me wrong, I love the window feature of my fourseen!!! As I said, I love both wallets but the fact that you don't get two dvds and made up routine ideas with showdown does not make it smaller or less lethal than the Fourseen. If you put thought in it and if you think about routines, its not fair to say that the fourseen or the showdown can do more... it depends on the person using it.
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If you are looking for a wallet with multi peeks and switching billets, my first choice would be The Cassidy Wallet ,


Highly Recommend this wallet !
Xaerius
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The webpage now indicates that the wallet will be back in stock 6 June. Let's hope the manufacturer delivers the wallets on time this time round!

Nigel
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Seeing as I am heading into my second year of waiting for my Hobbs hand, don't count on it. Rick and I used to be friends but man, all the promises unfulfilled. Sad.
James
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ArtIn mentioned that "…both wallets can use their Mullica features for peeking and switching alike.", referring to the Showdown and Fourseen wallets. Showdown doesn’t have a Mullica feature. The Shogun feature is indeed excellent, and there is a SUC-type feature also. But no Mullica, reverse or otherwise.

Jim
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Jim you are absolutely correct on that, i'am sorry. I must have thought slit... Mullica....
There is no inner wallet with showdown of course. Thank you for correcting me. much appreciated!
For those who want to have a closer look at the wallet just visit the outlaw webpage.
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I ordered a showdown in September 2012 and am still waiting for it. Lots of unfulfilled promises and ignored emails. Not a happy customer.
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