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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts 
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In a recent post, one of the members posted
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Actually, there has been on repeatedly replicable psi related phenomena - the sheep/goat effect. Well, this totally intrigued me, so I went online and did some research (ok, I googled it.) I'm having trouble finding many postings about it other than on many forums, etc. where they either simply restate the effect without attributions, or they point to the same one or two articles. The research material I *can* find doesn't even come close to supporting "repeatable" OR "replicable", which intrigues me even further. http://www.skepticalinvestigations.org/o......ver3.htm Quote:
The best known recent instance of the Sheep-Goat effect was that in which Marilyn Schlitz ( a sheep) and Richard Wiseman (a supergoat) carried out experiments with the same subjects and on two occasions got very different results, hers positive and his negative. http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/Articles/si92.html Quote:
Blackmore and Troscianko (1985) found no differences between sheep and goats in SRG for strings of digits 1 to 5 or in the ability of sheep and goats to discriminate random sequences from biased ones. However, Brugger, Landis, and Regard (1990) did. http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-......and.html Quote:
The same rather confused pattern of findings has also emerged from work investigating belief in psychic ability and scores on critical thinking tests So, I'm hoping some of you can point me to more information, preferably some that will actually describe the controls, protocols, etc. |
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bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts
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I had a helluva time the first time I tried this stuff. But as as a Highlander, the only real advice I can give here is: when you travel up to the hills with the lads to do your thing with the sheep and goats and they open the back doors of the van...... move as fast as you possibly can, because..... you just don't wanna be left with an ugly one.
Anyway, I know where you're coming from bruv. Send on snaps if you get the chance. bobser ps: If you do this properly, YES, your eyes WILL roll to the back of your head.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts
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Bobser: ok, it's official.....you scare me.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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On 2010-01-09 12:52, bobser wrote: bobser leaves out the best advice, buy wellies one size too big to fit the hooves in...
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bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts
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Yeah Iain, but remember, when you insert those hooves, have them facing you, or kissing is simply impossible.
C'mon Brody, don't be scared. We can't really fly till we let go and trust. I do hope someone is writing this stuff down. Excellent stuff for younger guys I'd say.
Bob Burns is the creator of The Swan.
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts
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Bobser:
The only people writing this down is the local constabulary. Besides, I never kiss on the first date. |
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mindmagic Inner circle London 1740 Posts
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Odd that "goats" like Wiseman and Blackmore always seem to get negative results.
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts
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Actually Blackmore for over 30 years was a sheep. If you go to her website, shown above, you can read her "blog" about her career. Very interesting stuff.
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Pi314 Regular user Sweden 114 Posts
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Do the reports state whether they used Welsh sheep or not?
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bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts
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... that's an excellent question. I believe Welsh sheep don't kiss. Not really. They just go: "Mmmmmmmm" which is not the same.
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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts
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On 2010-01-11 10:50, bobser wrote: they never call baaaaaa-ck either...
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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The fact that certain researchers (a minority) have obtained negative results may simply illustrate that confirmation bias cuts both ways. What is interesting is that meta analysis of all of the data going back to the 1940's shows statistically significant results that support the sheep/goat hypothesis.
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Drewmcadam Inner circle Scotland 1238 Posts
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And one piece of advice Bobser game me... do it at the edge of a cliff, that way the sheep fights back harder.
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts
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Mastermindreader:
Ah, poifect...can you point me to some of these papers, etc? Also, I think that Blackmore got negative results even when she was a believer. Not sure though, so will have to go re-read her site. |
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bobser Inner circle 4179 Posts
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Well remembered Drew, and as always, nice one Iain.
Mr. Cassidy, if you're going to be sensible about this topic and not childish and giggly we will have to ask you to leave the forum.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts
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Brody - You'll find an excellent overview, with citations of various studies, at:
http://www.tcm.phy.cam.ac.uk/~bdj10/psi/delanoy/node6.html Bobser - Don't worry. I can only be sensible for so long - it is erratic behavior for me and I expect it will soon pass. PS: Do any of you know a good way of removing wool from a zipper? Bob |
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Sid Helkule Inner circle Australia 1481 Posts
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On 2010-01-11 18:12, mastermindreader wrote: Bob, you have to 'ram' it. |
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brody Inner circle Omaha 1313 Posts
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Mastermindreader
thanks so much. just what I was looking for. |
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pearljamjeff Inner circle Ann Arbor 1249 Posts
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On a different thread that I think is locked, when the sheep/goat effect was brought up, Mr. Ben Harris said something like "This makes sense." Does anyone know what he meant? Ben, are you out there? Did you mean that there is a logical or scientific explanation? Would you care to clarify what you meant?
Thanks! -Jeff
Jeff Travilla - I own an advertising agency to help finance my magic addiction.
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts
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I'm pretty sure it was sarcasm on his part
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