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p_n_g
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I'ld like to be one ahead, and pre-order it before the effect exists.
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Dave, I meant no offense or any attack, I thought your thread is a parody of the preorder ads for Paul Harris Presents Little Man, the guy made of play dough. Hence my post, Dave Presents himself as just a Little Man trying to make some dough. Get it? I guess it's not funny if it requires an explanation.
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I'll also only order if the demo is filmed late at night with drunk people or people with very few teeth and a bottle wrapped in brown paper.

There was a demo recently for The Shark which showed the effects impact on normal sober folk, during the day, and SOME OF THEM WERE DRINKING COFFEE! Whats that all about ?
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Oh yes,
the more Jerry Springer Show rejects in the video over reacting the better.
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Noble1, Please accept my apology then, it's been a long day, You are correct in, it is a parody. I am not pointing out anyone specifically, just all of them.
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Jeez - I didn't know it was a pre-order - the dealer's ad said he had it in stock. Then he charged my credit card and sent me a little slip of paper saying "B/O". That was six months ago...
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On 2010-01-10 14:42, p_n_g wrote:
I'ld like to be one ahead, and pre-order it before the effect exists.

I love the totally impromptu pre ordering effect idea.
Instead of waiting to be disapointed when "name effect" is on it's way after a bad review comes out .. I can get months of enjoyment just wondering
what the next effect will be.
Can't wait Smile
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I only pre-order an order before it can be ordered but not after the pre-order becomes available for order. That way as longer as all is in order I can order that pre-order but will not recieve the order unless the order was originally only available as a pre-ordered order before the order was released.....
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Hurry though cause I hear that there will only be a limited number made!


...until it is re-issued! Smile
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I just pre-ordered a "pre-order" and before I hung up it was at my door-step! I was like "OH MY GOSH!!!"


Good magic to all,


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This is all well and good, I suppose, but when the hell will the sellers of this stuff come up with the idea of "pre-deliver"? I'm waiting...
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On 2010-01-10 22:11, The great Gumbini wrote:
I just pre-ordered a "pre-order" and before I hung up it was at my door-step! I was like "OH MY GOSH!!!"


Good magic to all,


Eric





Sounds to me like you may have recieved an advanced - pre, pre-order!

This order if ordered before the pre-order will be delivered quicker than the orginal pre-order, ordered....
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More hype the better I like it the faster I pre order I love geting owend .
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If this thread would be the cause that the useless intro's of the "cool" demo's are significantly shortenend, then the initiator of this thread deserves the Nobelprize, the Pullitzerprize and a medal of the Unitied Nations.
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I would like to hear from those that make the long, dawn out, fanfare in their demos and hear their side of why they do it and will they continue to do it.

It looks like no one has said they would rather see the slicky boy tactic than a basic, matter of fact, here it is presentation.

If there is, than I would like to hear why.
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Don’t be a victim of FAKE Pre Ordering. As a public service, below is a list of of REAL Pre Order characteristics.

1. The pre order must state that there is a distinct "possibility" of a price increase once the pre order begins to actually ship, if indeed it does actually ship.

2. The pre order must have at least two completely unsuspected delays (i.e. technical difficulties), thus suspending the item in an even longer state of pre orderness. Such as:

A) There was an unforeseen problem with the printer, resulting in a complete trashing of the printed instructions and or DVD case.
B) There was an unforeseen problem with the taping of the video instructions, resulting in a complete re taping and editing of the video instructions.
C) There was an unforeseen problem with the DVD case little round thingy that holds the DVD in place, which caused some (not all) of the DVDs to become dislodged and “potentially” scratched, though still playable on most standard DVD players and or computers built after 2008.
D) There was an unforeseen problem with the entire working of the effect, resulting in a compete re design of the entire effect.

3) The pre order must include some sort of jazzy ad copy that is intended to convince you the magician that you will be the first magician at your local magic club to perform this incredible wonder for your fellow magicians thus fooling them all badly. This is a cleaver tactic, since this is probably the only place and time you will ever perform the effect.

4) The pre order, after actual shipping MUST suddenly slip into complete and total oblivion, never to threaded upon again.

Please keep these characteristics in mind when placing your next pre order to ensure that it is indeed not available, to avoid feelings of disappointment.
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Well I don't think any producers are going to admit that their intros are drawn out but if you would like an explanation for why magic demos are the way they are I may be able to help. I think we do a good job at making a hip demo and still showing the effect but the one product demo we got some flack for having a long intro was this product http://www.papercranemagic.com/technique.htm that demo has about a 35 second intro the intro serves a purpose. It builds some anticipation it introduces you to the performer, it shows reactions and goes right into the effect. The reason companies don't do the old school video demos is because times are changing and magic doesn't have the dorky tag that it had in the past and the editors and videographers want to put out something that represents there artistic talent.
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Easy solution:

Don't pre-order. Wait for reviews.

That is all.
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On 2010-01-11 10:56, ted french wrote:
Well I don't think any producers are going to admit that their intros are drawn out but if you would like an explanation for why magic demos are the way they are I may be able to help. I think we do a good job at making a hip demo and still showing the effect but the one product demo we got some flack for having a long intro was this product http://www.papercranemagic.com/technique.htm that demo has about a 35 second intro the intro serves a purpose. It builds some anticipation it introduces you to the performer, it shows reactions and goes right into the effect. The reason companies don't do the old school video demos is because times are changing and magic doesn't have the dorky tag that it had in the past and the editors and videographers want to put out something that represents there artistic talent.


Hip Sean ? Hip !!!

The problem is that if folks think these demos are a little bit naff now, imagine what they'll look like in 6 months time.

It'll be like looking back at pictures of yourself in a pair of flared trousers with girly hair.

Hip Smile

Posted: Jan 11, 2010 2:22pm
And with thanks to Sean:

Demo's should always spend 50% of the effect showing the magician moodily walking around deserted streets/fields/bridges to really build the impression that this is sad loner....like most of us.
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Well I think our demos are hip can you cite an example of a non magic vid that is hip in your opinion?

What is hip? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN8pWdZhVaM&feature=related
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