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Whit Haydn
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I am with Jim on the fact that these cups are underpriced. Most of the really good cups on the market now are only being sold retail direct from the manufacturer, because to wholesale them would double the retail price.

If a cup is being marketed through the normal retail shops, it has to wholesale for at least double the cost to the manufacturer. An eighty dollar set of cups then wholesales for $160, and retails for $320. This would be a minimum profit range. Many of the cups that are currently retailing for $250 -- $400 should actually be much higher, $500 -- $800.

Only the internet creates the ability for the manufacturer to distribute directly. There are currently a lot of wonderful cups on the market, and I suspect that the expense of the metal will only go up, and the availability of competent hand-spinners will go down. Soon most of these cups will be collector's items and will not be available at prices the average performer could afford. Take advantage of the crowded market now, because it will not last long.
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Whit,
Has this situation happened before in the past, where there was a glut of cups for sale at great prices? Is history repeating itself? Will this be looked back upon as a golden age of cup production?
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Mark Martinez
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On 2003-06-26 17:16, MagiUlysses wrote:
Greetings and Salutations Whit,

Thanks! That's what I was looking for ... I'm putting my order in now.

Don't get me wrong, Pete's cups are fabulous, I'm just looking for something heavier, and the Gazzo's sound like they'll fit the bill.

Now I'm curious, is this how cup-and-ball collections get started? Smile

Thanks again!

Joe in KC

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Joe did you ever receive these cups, I am interested in your comparison. I too have and love my Galli Galli cups but would like them to be heavier... Smile
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Mark,

I use the Gazzo Cups and absolutely adore those things! They're like a ton of bricks! (well not thaaaat heavy).

I'd absolutely recommend you buy a set of the Gazzo Cups, or Gary Animal as Gazzo's or extraordinarily large and as they say, can hold a small planet.

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Greetings and Salutations Mark,

Both sets will take the same load size, and while Pete's cups are taller, about a 1/2 inch or so, because of the design, both have approximately the same attic space, if that is important to your routine.

While Gazzo's cups are shorter, they are heavier than Pete's. You can beat the heck out of the Gazzo cups. I use a 5/8 inch piece of hardwood dowel for my magic stick that I wouldn't dare use on Pete's cups.

Don't worry Pete, Smile I have a perfectly fine piece of 1/2 inch dowel for a magic stick that I use with my Galli Galli cups. I also use the same stick for use with my Bosco cups from Harries.

I use the same basic routine using all three sets. The routine is based on the one Cellini performs during his lecture on the International Magic video.

Hope this helps.

Joe in KC

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Joe,
Which cups--Gali Gali or Gazzo's--look smaller compared to the final load? In other words, which cup makes the final load look larger and more impossible to have come from the cup?
Thanks.
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Mark Martinez
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If you have a round load it sounds like Gazzo cups, because they are shorter... But if you have a large oblong load, like a potato or large lemon the Gali Gali cups work great because of the extra height. You then can set the oblong load the long way across the top of the cup and it really stands out.

From the sounds of it I have to get some Gazzo cups to add to my working collection! Smile
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Mark,

You would do well to pick up a set of Gazzo's cups.

I don't know your budget range, but the Gazzo/Animal cups in Silver are absolutely to die for. (at least for a collector)

If I could afford it I'd by all three sets in silver. I'm hoping to by the 'Babe' Size cups early next year in silver.

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Greetings and Salutations All,

James, Mark hit it on the head, it depends on the load.

The Gali cups have a taller taper -- you can stack a Gazzo on a Gali but you would be in a sticky situation if you tried to stack the Gali on the Gazzo. But both cups will take the same basic loads.

IMHO, the Gazzos are well suited for street work where your crowd is a little closer and the cups are going to take some abuse. If you play it safe with your cups, don't hand them out to fumble fingers and don't beat on them, the Gallis are good for the street, but their taller dimension would serve them in good stead on a stage, particularly if you keep them well polished.

Oh, who am I kidding. I love cups, and if I had the wherewithal, I'd have a collection that would make Pete green with envy! Smile

I play with my Gallis, Gazzos, Boscos with equal abandon, and I still pull out my Morrisey's and Hindus on occasion for something different to play with.

If you love cups, you'll come up with the rationalization, justification, or excuse to get a new set. I tend to shy away from wood sets -- my Hindus are an exception -- and light sets -- my Morrisey's were my first set -- because I'm a big guy and I like big, heavy stuff, so I'm stuck on big, heavy (read expensive) cups. LOL

I think what I'm saying is have fun playing with your cups, and if you enjoy the cups and balls, either set, Galis or Gazzos, is going to work for you. IMHO, the Gazzos are going to stand up to a beating better than the Galis, but if beatings arn't a consideration, then either will serve you well.

Have a great weekend, and have fun playing in the street.

Joe in KC

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The Gazzo and (Gary) Animal Cups from Magicpitch are excellent. They also have a slightly smaller cup they are calling the Babe Cups that can still hold a regulation size tennis ball. Gary is running some specials and sale prices at the moment.

James
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Actually, I own a set of the babe cups and they don't hold a baseball. They do accommodate a tennis ball quite nicely.
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On 2003-08-12 15:58, cfrye wrote:
Actually, I own a set of the babe cups and they don't hold a baseball....

The advert for the new Babe cups state that they will just hold a baseball. Also, in an e-mail I received from Gary Animal yesterday, he mentions that the new Babe cups will take a baseball.

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