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IAIN Eternal Order england 18807 Posts |
I also think, that you cannot offer to stand on a pedestal, its only there for others to put you on there...
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Roger Kelly Inner circle Kent, England 3332 Posts |
I, for one, am happy to see the end of Callahan's !@#$%^&* on these pages. But, good luck to him.
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mormonyoyoman Inner circle I dug 5,000 postholes, but I have only 2440 Posts |
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On 2010-01-19 12:56, 0pus wrote: Stay outta the infield! *jeep! -Grandpa
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Dick Christian Inner circle Northern Virginia (Metro DC) 2619 Posts |
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On 2010-01-19 16:41, Candin wrote: There are those of us who hold the contrary opinion; i.e., that no disclaimer is better than any disclaimer. BTW, we don't make any claims either.
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KBLV Regular user Las Vegas 188 Posts |
Callahan is a controversial balloon-twister?
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts |
The one that stands in the pedestal of controvery is osterlind
we all want him to do the seminar in ours countries :-p |
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bobser Inner circle 4178 Posts |
Okay it's time to get the kids outta here!!!!!!!!
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Decomposed Eternal Order High Desert 12059 Posts |
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On 2010-01-19 16:54, PsiDroid wrote: I heard from his interview he is doing films now so if that is true, I could only dream of my career going in that direction. He is a mysterious feller so who knows exactly what the Phenomenon fame has done for him.
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Rocketeer Special user Westchester, NY 965 Posts |
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On 2010-01-17 22:51, mmreed wrote: Show business is the only industry I know that's like that. It's the only business where, if you're not nationally or internationally famous, a certain percentage of the population (both in and out of the business) will think you are a loser. Ask someone you know who is not into magic and mentalism and who hasn't heard you mention their names if they've ever heard of Richard Osterlind, Michael Ammar or Chuck Hickok. Not one in one hundred have, I'll wager. (Well maybe in their home towns--but that's my point.) Yet I assume they all do or have made six figure annual incomes. As a theater critic covering mostly one stock theater company in a small New Jersey resort town (and some Atlantic City shows) for six years I watched many excellent performances by people who make a living in stock theater, dinner theater, road shows and the like. They make decent livings and they love what they do for a living. How many people can honestly say that about their careers? Rocky
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts |
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How can anyone say Jim is not one of the best entertainers of our time? CALM DOWN he did a BALLOON routine is not like he did Chris Rock´s ¨big piece of chicken¨ bit or David Copperfield´s ¨death saw¨ the only thing he did was a BALLOON routine it was entertaining.. but not on the same league as the guys mentioned above |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
That is correct, Alex. Callahan is not in the same league as 'those guys'...but in a DIFFERENT league altogether. I believe Jim is a controversial and hot-topic within our wing of the conjuring industry for that very reason.
The bottom line is: Callahan consistently steps outside of the box and does whatever suits his artistic muse at the moment. So did Uri. And, every time Callahan does this, many folks get their unmentionables in a twist...and controversy is the result. Rocky, you made a great point by the way. I agree completely. Warm regards, Mick Ayres
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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts |
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On 2010-01-23 13:13, Mick Ayres wrote: F'rinstance? |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
I do not have the time to waste pointing out the obvious. Have a nice day, Milt.
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Randwill Inner circle 1914 Posts |
Quote: You have implied that you are aware of a consistent pattern regarding Callahan's performing career. I was just curious to see if you would be able or willing to point to some documentation to back up your claim.
On 2010-01-23 20:58, Mick Ayres wrote: I just see a lot of talk about Jim's many accomplishments, but, much like when I ask for proof of supernatural claims, the people making the claims choose not to provide any support for their statements. Perhaps another fan of Jim's can provide some documentation of Callahan consistently stepping outside the box in ways that compare to Uri Geller. I'm sure I'm not the only reader here who would like to learn more about Jim's past and current performing career. |
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videokideo Special user 895 Posts |
Lisa Williams will be here in two weeks. Ticket sales are doing well, and shes playing the same theater Copperfield played in the second half of his career.
The theater holds 2500 seats and prices range from 25.00 to 65.00 for her show. |
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts |
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On 2010-01-23 13:13, Mick Ayres wrote: Im sorry.. are we talking about the same Jim Callahan that is only known on the magic trade? When he got national exposure throught phenomenon, Americans clearly told him they did not care about his lame stunt by booting him off after just 1 show. He is no way near what Uri did and does. Not even close, it is not gonna happen in this lifetime. that's why he is now doing balloon routines. Those routines suit him better, leave Raymond R.I.P. |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
Alex, please go back and re-read the first post on this thread. Pay special attention to the phrase: '...within our wing of the conjuring industry.'
For the record, Jim is not "now doing balloon routines". I believe that video clip dates before the Phenomenon show. Not that it matters. As a conjurer who prefers mentalism...I have no problem entertaining with balloons either if a client requests it. It's all about being comfortable within your character. Judging by his once-upon-a-time posts here on the Café, Callahan has made it clear he put that video out to display another side of his stage-persona and to show he is comfortable (and good at) doing something that entertains in another way. Perhaps these recent posts answer my initial question. Even if demonstrating a clever balloon presentation, Callahan remains a sticking point of controversy. Warm regards, Mick
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alpha alex Special user 774 Posts |
Hey all the power to jim if he is doing balloon routines, I said already that I applaud his performance and his ability to entertain an audience with norhing but 2 balloons.
I just don't think that the stunt he did on phenomenon qualify him as a controversial figure, for me he is a guy that tryes too hard on being controversial but falls short. at the end is just boring nonsense, which is hardly entertaining. |
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Mick Ayres Special user Hilton Head Island 998 Posts |
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On 2010-01-24 18:57, alpha alex wrote: Well, the producers and at least one judge on that show certainly thought differently. That being said, please don't miss the point of my question. I am talking about Callahan's status as a controversial figure within our wing of the conjuring industry. I've made that clear from the first post on this thread. Wasn't Jim Callahan making waves among us long before 'Phenomenon'? Wasn't that a factor that contributed greatly to his being selected by the producers of that show in the first place? Mick
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ALEXANDRE Inner circle 3024 Posts |
This thread reminds me of something Max Maven says:
"Modern Magicians inherited something profound, and have rendered it rather trivial." Jim is highly creative and an innovative practitioner of our art, doing the best he can to preserve and expand on this profound inheritance, yet people get annoyed because he sometimes chooses to present his work under a paranormal flag. So what? For some of you, it seems to be "cool" and "okay" to lie about NLP and Non-Verbal Communication, even when performing to teenagers, yet some of you choose to come down on Jim Callahan for performing under a paranormal slant? It's pure and simple hypocrisy and some of you should be ashamed. Who cares under what flag a performer chooses to entertain in. It's a performance, it's entertainment. Which reminds me of another quote: "You and the Naboo form a symbiotic circle. What happens to one of you will affect the other. You must understand this." - Obi-Wan Kenobi By trying to bring the guy down, don't you guys realize that you are bringing yourselves and our art down as well? The guy is not doing anything wrong, in fact, quite the contrary ... if only some of you chose to pay attention. Personally, I think a lot of this comes from jealousy, some of you only wish you had the courage to go out there in public and try to be original and innovative. It takes backbone. This is Paul Vigil in a recent interview in MUM magazine: “Magic used to have elegance, sophistication,” he explains. “Right now, it’s not being represented as a high art.” It got so bad that there was a point during the last year or two when Paul seriously considered giving up the vocation he’d been studying for most of his life. He was at a major magic convention, watching acts that would have been more at home in a circus rather than in a magic show. “My grand vision of magic, that I’ve had my entire life, got a crack in it and started falling apart. And for the first time in my life, I could see why the general public has such a derogatory opinion of magic and magicians. The whole weight of that hit me hard.” Why not champion a guy who is trying to be innovative and original? Where is the elegance and sophistication of attacking another performer for being different? As Jim said on the Phenomenon interview: "This is America, people are allowed to believe what they want to believe." Some of you guys want to "school" people on what they should believe, insulting some people's religious beliefs in the process with your attacks, it's very close-minded and limited, I wouldn't want to have the chip some of you have on your shoulders. Here is one more quote I believe is relevant to the discussion: "Magic is the art of transformation, it reminds us that anything is possible, and that's an important message in today's world." - Jeff McBride Anything is possible, guys ... this quote is not selective as to what should or should not be possible. Anything is possible. In the end, Jim should not be controversial at all, the guy should be respected and revered for the love he has for the art, and for the innovation, creativity and originality he's constantly working on to improve performance. Just my biased opinion. Back to the regularly scheduled bashing now....
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