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seadog93
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Does anyone have Jon Stetson's Brown Paper Project?
If so, would you offer a review, especially of the bonus reader's DVD?

Thanks
-Courtney
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Huh. It looked pretty cool to me. Does this mean that no one has it?
Well, maybe I'll get it in a few weeks and post my own review.

-Courtney
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I have it, and I can see why those who have it would prefer not to recommend it to others.

There's a reason jon is one of the most successful mentalists in the world.

It's on this DVD.
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Best $200 I've spent in years.
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The bit about business cards and how to design them and what a professional high end needs to had on yere has changed the way I present myself fundamental, and it's registering with
my clients already.
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Is anyone willing to sell this dvd to me?
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If this is the same thing - it seems it is awful

Here is the thread: https://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/view......&start=0

And here is a review from that thread [though many ppl are saying it's bad]


Well this set was a major let down. Poorly produced, conversations go completely off-topic and there is little real information given out. Bottom line - any useful information that you would get from this set, you can get from Richard Osterlind's Business of Magic. Save your money and buy Mystique. You'll get all the good business information and lots of great routines.

I'm still trying to figure out why he did these DVDs. He doesn't bring anything new to the table (the wobbly table) and in fact quotes a lot of other sources. You may like these DVDs if you like Joel Bauer. He quotes Bauer quite often.

Jon stresses quality. Wear quality suits, have quality promotional material, wear an expensive watch, etc. However he doesn't live that quality in this set. He talks about performing conditions and how, if they're not right, he will insist on changing the set up of the room if necessary (haven't we read that before?). Yet the shooting conditions for this DVD set were just bad. Shot in a hotel room, no one thought about turning off the air conditioner which turns on every few minutes - and it's noisy. The table they're sitting out wobbles. It wobbles a lot. It wobbles so much that I found myself yelling at the screen telling them to fix the *** table.

Loren Tindell couldn't keep Stetson on topic. He wanders, gets off topic and the point is missed. 15 minutes later you're wondering what they started out talking about. Does anyone call Richard Osterlind "Richy"? Stetson does. A lot. Maybe that's just nit-picking. But the DVDs are filled with little annoyances like that.

There is a "philosophy" for lack of a better term discussed at the beginning of these. That is this - success means different things to different people. I agree with this 100%. Stetson's idea of success may not be your idea of success. Guys like Stetson, Osterlind, Banachek, Conover, etc. work at a different level than most of us. Their fees and stakes are higher and they are under much more pressure to deliver an unbelievable show than maybe we are on a local or region level. If working at the top corporate level is what you're interested in, then read about it from Osterlind. That's most of what these DVDs are about.

This excerpt from the ad:
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Naturally, no discusson of marketing would be complete without covering the basic sales kit that every performer needs -- the business card, promotional brochures, sales and supplementary materials that you use to present yourself to prospective clients in the best possible way.



There is discussion about it, but you're not going to see ANY examples. Lot's of discussion on business cards, but you're not going to see Jon's current card. You're not going to see his old cards either. It's obvious he's a bit concerned over people stealing his promotional material. Understandable! But if you're worried about it then why do a DVD set and not give examples?

Stetson starts to talk about website design & marketing and it's obvious he's in over his head, is saying things just to say them and is clueless. His website is awful and breaks many of the rules he talks about.

I REALLY wanted to like these DVDs, but after 4 hours of viewing I'm left with more questions than answers.
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If sombody has it iam willing to buy.
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