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TAJ
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Has anyone has been busted performing ootw? Specifically the *****h?

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Taj
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What *****h?

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Hi Dom, I'm a little dense. Would you mind explaining your reply? Am I to understand from your comment that:



A) You don't use a *****h in your method before the reveal?

B) You don't understand what I mean by *****h.

C) You have never been busted doing the *****h.



I apologize for the thickness of my head but clarification would be appreciated.



All the best,

Taj
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I vote B, maybe the first letter would be good too, but since you said before the reveal I think I get what you mean an in that case I think I'm safe to say I don't use one... but I can't confirm cause I don't really know what *****h is?
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I don't do OOTW...I like Harry Lorayne's OOTU which is found in CUCM.

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On 2010-02-09 10:14, DomKabala wrote:
I don't do OOTW...I like Harry Lorayne's OOTU which is found in CUCM.

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So its D) None of the above.

Taj
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Hi Taj,

First, it's OK to say "switch" on the open forums. The rules regarding exposure can be summed up as follows: If someone who doesn't already know how to do the effect can discern it from the post, it's exposure. Saying a switch is involved in no way would allow someone who doesn't already know the method to be able to do the trick, so it is not exposure.

To answer your question...

I do several different versions (my own) of this wonderful effect. Depending on the version, there may or may not be a switch. Obviously, if I'm performing one that doesn't have a switch, there is no switch to "bust".

In the routines that do have switches, no, I've never been busted. This is not because I am an incredible technician--I'm not. It is because of routine construction, audience management, and misdirection. For example, if the sneakiness is carried out while a spectator is turning over cards one at a time to discover they are all the same color, the growing sense of amazement and focus on what is happening would almost allow you to produce an elephant--a great time to carry out a switch. Also, if two packets are combined, a ribbon spread can take care of the issue, depending on whether you goft to right or right to left, if you get my meaning.

I hope this helps,

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Thanks Scott. I should have been more clear in my original post. I do Paul Curry's OOTW and wanted to use Eugene Burger's method (learned from Grant) of doing the switch. However, after posting this topic I realized that perhaps the gathering of the magicians column of cards as one packet and ribbon spread is a better method, you had mentioned the same thing in your post as well. Glad you haven't been busted though!



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On 2010-02-09 15:13, TAJ wrote:
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On 2010-02-09 10:14, DomKabala wrote:
I don't do OOTW...I like Harry Lorayne's OOTU which is found in CUCM.

Cardamagically,
Dom Smile Smile


So its D) None of the above.

Taj


Yep, I use no switch.

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Never been nailed on this. My patter acts in a way like verbal misdirection, if you know what I mean.
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Have never been caught on this routine, but there is no switch at the end in the version I do. I use a version of Paul Harris and Harry Lorayne. Also, no separation setup at the beginning. FASDIU. Love it. Only thing I have never liked about this effect is the length of the routine itself. Going through half the deck or more takes awhile, and is pretty boring, even for me!
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Thanks Janus & Corbett. It's funny because I have been watching Paul Harris and Harry Lorayne performance videos lately on youtube and love their style(especially Harry's magic square routine). Their versions of OOTW are highly praised on the Café, so it might be a good idea to check them out. Glad you haven't been busted!



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I agree with Corbett. Check-out Paul Harris' "Galaxy", which does not use a switch. It's one of my favorite published OOTW routines.
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Never been caught. I use an idea from Reel Magic that flies by the specs. It is the one area of angst, tho...
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Performed several mutations of O.O.T.W. for decades, (Including the already mentioned Harry Lorayne's version) and never once got busted...
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In my opinion - the only reason you're thinking of being busted is because you're thinking of being busted! For goodness sake, simply turn over the "right" side to show all colors match - act surprised - "Good Lord, you got 'em all!" as you simply TOSS ASIDE the two face down "leader" cards of the other side, paying no attention to them. Your attention is on the cards he dealt. Gather and spread; do it correctly and the reds in that side are opposite the blacks in the other side, etc. THERE IS NO REASON for anyone to even THINK of the two cards you just tossed aside - they have NOTHING to do with the fact that the spectator separated the colors. THAT'S THE POINT. Stop worrying about it, and you won't have to worry about it! HL.
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Precisely. Or, Harry, as has been reiterated to redundancy, "Don't run when you're not being chased."
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Thanks to everyone who posted comments. Harry's advice is greatly appreciated, he's been performing this miracle for over 40 years! It's over thinking on my part, I should just focus on the magic.

Taj
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Lorayne's way is good enough!

But if you are still worried about that, I suggest you take a look at Andrew Murray's DVD Thirteen. For his impromptu OOTW he uses the whole deck (which I don't like), but his way of correcting the wrong pile at the end is very nice!
IMO, it's bad idea to do something unless you feel 100% comfortable with it, and some spectators might sense your insecurity.
You might feel more confident with Murray's way, so take a look at it.
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On 2010-03-22 22:59, Picard wrote:
Lorayne's way is good enough!

But if you are still worried about that, I suggest you take a look at Andrew Murray's DVD Thirteen. For his impromptu OOTW he uses the whole deck (which I don't like), but his way of correcting the wrong pile at the end is very nice!
IMO, it's bad idea to do something unless you feel 100% comfortable with it, and some spectators might sense your insecurity.
You might feel more confident with Murray's way, so take a look at it.


Thanks Picard, I found the demo on youtube. This looks like Harry Lorayne's impromptu version with a full deck. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a41uQEKirWk

You are quite right, you should NOT perform something you are not 100% comfortable with. Good advice.

Taj
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