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Okay..I have been doing coin work for a number of years but it seems like the okito bug has hit....just like card to wallet there seems to be many choices...standard okito, buddha, boston, slot box...I kind of like the standard okito but the buddha box seems new and improved and I think all the standard moves apply to them all but I wanna walk efore I run....I downloaded okito 1 2 3 and mystery box for a start but really like that david roth routine 4 coins out of the box one at a time an then back in the box one at a time.....how difficult is that routine?
thank either a response here or a pm would be great
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It really depends on what you perfer, and what routine you're performing as to which box to use. I have routine I hope to release if I ever finish writing it up. That for one of the sleights the Buddha box works best for. The other work just not as well/easy. Roth "Out with Four" will work with any box. If you've been a coin worker for awhile his routine shouldnt be that diffcult for you.

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I really think you should start with a normal Okito box. Mystery Box by Tim Feher is my favorite Okito routine. I highly suggest just learning normal Okito routines first, just like I think one should learn the sleights before they use gaffs. Then from there, move on to whatever else you like.
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Myself I like the boston box WITHOUT A coin stuck in the botton! Just so much you can do with one!
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That's true. I guess you can do the same with a normal box as you can with an okito. Obviously, Dave would know more than I do. Smile

What's your favorite Okito routine, Mr. Neighbors?
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I like the Boston Style with the coin affixed in the middle of the routine.

There is an inexpensive wood one available that I hand out with a ring in it - then switch for the Boston version and do a coin effect as an 'afterthought'. That way there is a sensible reason for having the box. In the end a vanished ring appears in the box as well.
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Johnson Products sells an inexpensive 3-box set for $34 that consists of a standard box, a Boston box and a Sucker (undersized) Box, click HERE to view.

That is really plenty to get you started, and will let you do some amazing routines. SETH
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Seth posts a great idea. That is super cheap.

If you're a morgan-dollar user, I know Roy Kueppers makes them in any material you want. He's making me a set as we speak.
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Hi Loren,
I just happen to have a whole book of coin box routines useing a boston box! ( without a coin stuck in the botton) It's called Poff. coin box magic! Smile My Favorite Routine? Right now it my 3-3 siver brass tranpo routine!
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Seems like you have lots of material I was unaware of. Thanks again David.
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Thanks man! Yea the book is on my Site.
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I'm a little confused..as the original poster I'm confused about the idea of a boston box with a coin stuck in the bottom Is this similar to a magnetic buddha box with a steel shim half?
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On 2010-02-07 12:46, obsidian52 wrote:
I'm a little confused..as the original poster I'm confused about the idea of a boston box with a coin stuck in the bottom Is this similar to a magnetic buddha box with a steel shim half?


No , the magnetic box looks like and can be used as a regular okito box (if you don't use a shimmed coin).

A Boston box is a DIFFERENT BOX . If you know how to use it , the spectator will not know its a Boston box (the lay person should not even know that a "Boston box" even exists).
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Original poster again....okay lots of interesting and informative replies but still no definitive answer on perhaps the best or easiest coin box to start with or is it more of a case of different strokes for different folks
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The Bostn has a recessed botton that will hold a coin out for you! Most of the routines today have the coin stuck in the botton! And I thought that's how it allways was untill I said " Hay let's not stuck the coin in the botton! That way there is so much you can do with it!" But I was just looking in Bobo's coin book on page 230 And the routine there does NOT have the coin stuck in the botton!!!
Soooo it goes back a lot father thay We thought it did! I don't know who thought of sticking it there somewhere down the line. But that's not how it started out!
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Bobo's book (the hardcover version) has two different Boston Box routines.

One calls for having the coin stuck to the gimmick (with a little magician's wax). The other uses the gimmick as a holdout, no wax needed. So you can try it both ways and see what you like.

As for the best or the easiest box, I think they all require about the same amount of practice. The Buddha Boxes have a neat, rounder design and a few more options (magnetic & slot), but they are also pricier.

I'd start with something not so expensive and see how you do before investing in lots of different boxes. Another good investment is David Roth's DVD, volume Two of his "Ultimate Coin Magic," which deals with Okito boxes and all the sleights, moves and subtleties; click HERE for more info. Much of the same material is also in his book, "Expert Coin Magic," click HERE to view. SETH
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Had not looked at the 2th. routine yet! Smile So it all started right there! Just got to look at that stuff closer! There is a lot of stuff right in front of you that you forget about!!!
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I vote for Slot Box. It has many possibilities. David Roth's Slot box routine is a winner.

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