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Elputty
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Cheating by David Regal, it might not really be a packet trick because you do some stuff with the deck at the begining and end, but most of it is in the hands with only a few cards.

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4 pages and no one mentioned Richard Sanders "Picture This"!! This may not be examinable but with my handling it is.

Just my 2 cents

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My take would be:

jazz aces
twisting the aces
color monte
queens out of control
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As mentioned numerous times already, Color Monte and Dr. Daley's Last Trick. Daryl's Presto Printo is also superb and well worthy of a mention.
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On 2003-06-25 14:01, Jim Short wrote:

A friend recently taught me a killer version where all the backs can be shown as red, then as blue, and at the end the backs are mixed red/blue. You end clean. In fact, the spectators are so sure trick cards are used that hading them out gets another gasp. The friend who taught me the effect suggests giving away the cards.

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Sounds a little like the Svengali Riffle, except that it's the color of the backs that change not the color of the faces. The Svengali Riffle can be done with a Stripper dack and I'm pretty sure is examinable.

Besides Virgina City Shuffle, Color Monte and Twisting the Aces,I also like the Three Card Monte.
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Ungimmicked NFW and color monte.
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I have never done a packet trick where someone wanted to examine the cards.
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On 2004-06-26 03:02, Jordini wrote:
I have never done a packet trick where someone wanted to examine the cards.


EXACTLY! Packet tricks don't need the cards to be examined! The magic isn't in the cards it's in you and the audience know that.
Though, going along with the thread, I'd have to agree with Colour Monte.

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My favorite packet effect, bar none, is Terry LaGerould's "Cheesecake" routine, done with cards from a regular, shuffled deck. The original write-up is next to impossible to find today. It's a nice 3-4 minute routine, and features 19 effects in that short time span, including awesome versions of Twisting the Aces, Cannibal Cards, and more!
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Favorite examinable packet tricks... A very good question since, in my opinion, MOST all packet tricks achieve such incredible effects that the cards are screaming to be examined. When people see such amazing things as the backs and faces changing colors 3 or 4 times they WILL suspect that the cards must be "special" even if they don't actually say "let me see those cards." If you happen to think for one moment that people wouldn't like to see the cards (even if only thinking that to themselves) you are deceiving YOURSELF, it's that simple).

Of course, there are some packet tricks that do not arouse any suspicion (even if they are GAFFED TO THE HILT!). Twisted Sisters and Skinner's 3 Card Monte are good examples of such effects (hey the faces and backs didn't change colors half a dozen times!). What must be kept in mind is whether or not the EFFECT lends itself to what I have dubbed the "Reach Response."

Nobody ever suspects the cards to be gaffed in Twisted Sister (they feel like they saw both sides of all of the cards anyway). However, try this little experiment: pull 4 regular aces out of a small wallet/envelope (as opposed to removing them from a deck) and then perform Twisting the Aces and maybe even Daley's Last Trick with them (but do not use the spectator's hand during any of the handling). When you finish the trick(s), quickly put the cards back in their little envelope/wallet.
You better believe that their is heat on those cards (even though WE know they are ungaffed). If you don't let them look at the cards, then they WILL conclude (in their minds) that it was the CARDS and not YOU that was responsible for the amazement. It's all about the audiences PERSPECTIVE. If you/we keep that foremost in our mind, it's easy to see which effects need to be examined (for a deeper level of conviction) and which do not.

Consider the effectiveness/degree of conviction of a cut and restored rope routine where you COULD NOT give the rope away to a spectator at the end.
It will lose impact. Regardless of whether or not you used rope m****ts or not, the audience will suspect that SOMETHING must be fishy with the rope.

At any rate, here are some of the packet tricks I'm voting on. Most have already been mentioned (which is a testament to their strength).

Color Monte - I can't tell you how often people go through all kinds of gyrations when examining the cards. They are convinced that it's heat or something that changes them.

Return of the Magnificent 7 - I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this one yet. An examinable/totally clean version of Wild Card. What normal person WOULDN'T want to examine the cards after seeing 7 wild cards change to match whatever card they cut to? I actually give the 7 cards away to the spectator to keep as a souvineer. Nothing dispells "must be using trick cards" theory quite like GIVING THEM AWAY.

Cardboard Chameleons - Again, if you were NOT a magician, wouldn't you be DYING to check out those cards? Nuff said.

Virginia City Shuffle - I use my own altered handling which seems to show the blank cards more often and more freely. Essentially, I just routined it to add additional "convincers" regarding the blank cards (other than the r******d fan and Flustration count). By doing this, I've also added the element of PROGRESSION that the trick needed (as opposed to repetion).

Kaminskas' Rainbow Connection - Again, surprised nobody has mentioned this one either. Essentially an ungaffed/examinable version of Bannon's Stranger's Gallery. Neither of these is a "true" packet trick in the traditional sense, but both pretty much become a packet trick once the 4 initial cards are removed from the deck.

Eye Exam - My handling/presentation does end examinable (with no p***ing or switching).
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Wespetty - thanks for that. A very interesting read. Smile
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My choice Color Monte, I agree most people think it is the heat from your hands changes them.
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Paul Harris's Imaculate connection not only are the cards examinable but the spectators can keep them fo a souviner
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My all time fav. that is examinable is "Emerson & West prsent, Magic Ronnay with Sympathetic Cards." It's a trick with two sets of four cards that are shown. One card is turned over and the rest of the pack all turns over. The routine goes on to the end where they (the cards) are unable to do the trick any more because they are all "from different backgrounds". Even though you showed the backs to be all red bicycle cards, they are now all different colors and backgrounds. Totally examinable. Nice trick.
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Jordini - Folks wanting to examine cards from a packet trick is not all bad. Queens Out of Control is one of my favorites and it helps make the trick when the spectator realizes that they can grab the 5 different color queens, and the 3 jokers, after you have clearly shown 8 red backed queens. Their examination, in my opinion, only makes the effect stronger.
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I have been doing magic since I was about 5 or 6 years old, (I'm 32 now) and I have found that over the years people really started to wonder how my tricks were done. My friens all want to grab whatever it is in my hands to view it and see if they can figure it out. That's why I always prefer to have an examinable trick. I love the looks on their faces when they realize that they have no idea how I did it.
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On 2005-02-02 19:14, Roger Kelly wrote:
Wespetty - thanks for that. A very interesting read. Smile


Thanks for the kind words Roger.

Somehow in all my years of magic I've never come across (nor seen performed) the "Sympathetic Cards" effect that has been mentioned. Anyone know where I could see a clip of a performance?

I also forgot to mention Presto Printo in my previous post.

Cheers, Wes
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"Sympathetic Cards" sometimes know as Sympathetic Aces or Paradigm Shift is very similar to "Queens Out of Control." It is fair to say that with Sympathetic Cards, there is an 'extra' card to that of QOOC and the handling varies (there's a few J****n c****s as well as the E******s) but the effect is pretty much the same.

QOOC can be viewed here - just scroll down to the relevant section and click on the option of movies appropriate to your connection speed:

http://www.penguinmagic.com/browse.php?s......amp;y=10

Incidentally I've just purchased a set of QOOC from Neil Lester at Cards By Martin ( http://www.cardsbymartin.com ) in Tally Ho circle backs. The alternative backs (for those that are familiar with this effect) are multicoloured Tallies with a Garfield Cat holding a magic wand and a top hat. A nice ending having just repeatedly shown red Tally Ho circle backs.

QOOC is probably the best packet trick out there. (imho) Never had anything less than a "WOW" from this. AND, the best part is - you can leave the cards on the table as they are totally examinable! I can't remember who hasn't gone straight for the cards at the end. Hmmm - must get another set!!

If anyone know of any video demo's of Sympatheics or Paradigm Shift - can they post the link here please? Thanks

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Doc. Daley's Last Trick and Twisting the Aces. Go from one to the other, from a regular deck and the packets can be examined.
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On 2005-02-02 21:45, tgroenjes wrote:
I have been doing magic since I was about 5 or 6 years old, (I'm 32 now) and I have found that over the years people really started to wonder how my tricks were done. My friens all want to grab whatever it is in my hands to view it and see if they can figure it out. That's why I always prefer to have an examinable trick. I love the looks on their faces when they realize that they have no idea how I did it.


I saw tgroenjes do this a handful of years ago and it was a wonderful effect! highly recommended. I did ask to see the packet and he gave it to me.
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